G1 - steel?

nozh2002 · Dec 27, 2003

Hi,
Does anybody know what is this G1 steel? Seki Cut have knfe out of it:
http://www.store.yahoo.com/razorlimit1/sc-150mg.html
Is it typo and means GIN-1 (Gingami 1 - which is G2 in Japan) or it is something different?

Thanks, Vassili.

edited - I put "," after Hi; "?" after first sentance and "G2 in Japan" in last sentance.

VampyreWolf · Dec 27, 2003

Spyderco's easrly models were Gin-1(or G-2, same product).

Gingami-1/Gin-1/G-2(choose a name)

0.9 Carbon
15.5 Chromium
0.6 Mangenese
0.3 Molybdenum
0.2 Phosphorus
0.37 Silicon
0.03 Sulphur

Can't comment personally, but I've seen a lot of opinions on it. Hear it takes a decent edge and holds it pretty well. Can imagine that it'll be pretty stainless also(ats-55 is 1.00 carbon, 14 chromium... ats-34 is 1.05 C and 14.00 Cr... vg-10 is 0.95-1.05 C, 14.5-15.5 Cr)

nozh2002 · Dec 27, 2003

So you think G1 is same as G2 (GIN-1, etc)?
Thanks, Vassili.

VampyreWolf · Dec 27, 2003

Going by the spyderco pages for my steel info...

spyken · Dec 27, 2003

yup, Sal mentioned once that GIN1 is G-2 and performance wise, it's pretty damn good. Comparable to ATS34/154CM, better than the 440 series I think, due to the high carbon content. Of course, heat-treating is everything, and I think that Spyderco's heat treat is up there with the best.

Danbo · Dec 27, 2003

It's the same stuff. G2 and GIN-1. Good steel, but not anywhere near as good as VG10. I had a few of the older Police Models in G2, and none of them took and held an edge as well as my new VG10 carbon fiber model.

nozh2002 · Dec 28, 2003

Sorry, I was not clear (my Englisssssh

).

Seki Cut has knife made from G1.
"GIN-1" is same as "G2", but what is "G1" then?

Thanks, Vassili.

Keith Montgomery · Dec 28, 2003

I can't find out a darn thing about whether G-1 is actually GIN-1. Maybe you should email Seki Direct and ask them.

iwahara@sekidirect.com

nozh2002 · Dec 28, 2003

OK, I did. Let see what they answer.
Thanks, Vassili.

ceya one · Dec 28, 2003

Post a link to the Spyderco Forum. I will look and see what info I have on the steel .I had a lot before but I have it in storage.

S/F,
CEYA!
ceya Knife Designz

nozh2002 · Dec 28, 2003

Ok I just check original text again:
"...Camping Deba, G1 steel black Tsuchime Shirogami San-mail Damascus blade..."
I think this is new stell - G1, as well as new Damascus - San-Mail

Let see what Seki Direct will answer.
Thanks, Vassili.

nozh2002 · Dec 29, 2003

Just got letter from Seki Direct:
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Hi Vassili,

Thank you for writing us. Yes, it is Gingami 1 from Hitachi Metal.

Seki-Direct
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Thanks, Vassili.