G10 questions

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How water resistant is G10?
If submersed can it be damaged?
I’ve got various G10 equipped knives wet, and I’ve typically just wiped it off. I’ve always assumed it wasn’t very absorbent but it’s only been an assumption I guess.

Not having any issues - just thinking.
Any info/insights appreciated.
 
I more or less understand what G10 is, but I didn’t know if it is at all porous or would absorb water, and if so would it be damaged?
Thanks for the reassurances 👍
 
I know this was a basic, maybe silly, question.
The reason I asked was yesterday I picked up a new-ish Spyderco PM2 with damp hands and when I set it down you could see wet shapes where my fingers had been, and then they sort of just vanished. As if the scales absorbed the moisture like a sponge.
I've never seen that on any other G10 handled knives.
 
I found this info a few years ago when I was looking for the differences between G10 and Micarta.

G10 vs. Micarta: Which is better for knife handles

When purchasing a knife, choosing one with the best handle material for your needs is crucial. To decide which knife handle material is better for your needs between G-10 and Micarta, it is essential to look into the key details of each material.

What is G10 ?

G10 is part of the composite family created from fiberglass and resin. The material is formed using compression and heat. Fiberglass cloth is stacked in layers and soaked in epoxy resin. Once ready, it is compressed on extreme pressure and laminated in high heat to form a fiberglass material known as G10. This material is very versatile and ranks among the most durable glass laminate materials on the market.

Is G10 handle water resistant?

G10 is water-resistant but not waterproof. However, it does not allow water to penetrate the handles easily because of the materials used and the construction process. In wet conditions, a Micarta handle will provide a better grip while G10 will always provide a better grip in dry conditions.

Is G10 handle durable?

G10 handles depict high levels of strength and durability. This material will serve you for a long time in both dry and wet conditions. For this reason, G10 is suitable for making knife handles to be used in wet applications. G10 can also maintain a very thin point through significant impact testing.

Also, G10 has a hardness of 110 HRC on the Rockwell hardness scale.

What is Micarta?

Like G10, Micarta is made of resin and composite material, making it part of the composite family. It is also constructed following the compression and lamination process. However, it is built using canvas, linen, burlap, or carbon fiber rather than glass. The laminate layers are soaked in phenolic resin and compressed with extreme heat and high pressure to form the hard material known as Micarta.

Is Micarta handle water-resistant?

Micarta can let in water and other liquids because the ingredients that form the laminate material can have openings in the areas where the resin did not fill up correctly or on the edges. Also, the outer material of Micarta is soft and can quickly get scratches and dents, allowing water to penetrate.

Is Micarta handle durable?

Micarta handles are durable and hard therefore serve you for a long period. The ingredients used in this material can vary, but mostly they use linen and canvas. A Micarta handle will not chip or break easily no matter the application. The hardness of Micarta made from linen is 105 HRC, which is lesser than the hardness of G10 by 5.

What is the difference between G10 handle and Micarta handle?

Ingredients


The base ingredient of the G10 handle is glass fiber, while Micarta is made with different ingredients, including canvas, linen, paper, or burlap. G10 layers are bound by epoxy resins while Micarta layers are bound with phenolic resins, a kind of tough plastic that super hardens as it dries.

Appearance

In terms of appearance, both materials deliver a sleek finish, but Micarta offers more designs and colors. The variations of the materials used to make Micarta allow it to create a rugged but stylish look. It has a more natural look, It should not be constantly exposed to oil and grease or other penetrative elements as this will cause it to develop a patina.

On the other hand, G10 gives a smoother finish and does not need extra care to maintain its looks. G10 will also maintain its original look for a long period while Micarta can easily darken over time if not well maintained.

Is G10 handle heavier than Micarta?

The weight difference between G10 and Micarta is almost unnoticeable. Most knife buyers do not notice the weight difference, but G10 is heavier than Micarta. Unless you are very keen on weight, the weight difference between the materials cannot be a solid factor when deciding between the two.

G10 Wet Grip vs Micarta

It is worth noting that in wet conditions a Micarta handle will provide better grip while G10 will always provide better grip in dry conditions. The G10 grip can be improved by texturing the epoxy surface to give it that extra bit of grip. You could try adding some checkering or ridges, depending on what you prefer!

G10 handle advantages

  • Harder than Micarta.
  • Brighter and does not take patina after a long time.
  • It is light weight.
  • Easy to polish.
  • Offers more brighter colors.
Micarta handle advantages

  • Offers better grip in wet conditions.
  • Warmer to the touch in cold conditions.
  • Develops patina over time which can be a great thing to some knife users.
  • Offers more subtle colors.
  • Cheaper than G10.
Is G10 Better Than Micarta?

Yes! G10 offers excellent strength, durability, is more resistant to water, and requires minimal maintenance. On the other hand, Micarta is made of more natural ingredients, offers numerous subtle color options and designs, and is more affordable. However, it provides lower durability and is less resistant to water. Although expensive, G10 stands out because of its strength, durability, and water resistance.
 
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Micarta does not have a hardness of 105 HRC. Blade steel is only ~60 HRC. Micarta is not harder than blade steel.
105 would be about right for Micarta using the Rockwell M scales.

Micarta is a trade name owned by Norplex=Micarta and is properly capitalized. But in truth these days it's like "Kleenex" and has become a generic term. Because of that there is a lot of variation in the materials that people commonly call "Micarta". The most you can say based merely on the term "Micarta" is that it is layers of fabric encapsulated in a thermosetting resin.
Micarta is not necessarily made with phenolic resin, though it often is. Even Norplex-Micarta offers several grades of Micarta with various resins. The composition of G10 is correct, epoxy resin and glass fabric. On the other hand, that's not very limiting. There are thousands of resins which can be termed "epoxy resin". Note: the term "G10" itself derives from an electronics industry spec (NEMA specification L1) for laminates used for circuit boards. These days the materials used for knife handles aren't all that similar to those used for circuit boards, but that is the original source of the term.

There are several other things I don't agree with in that post. You might cite the source you got it from.
The hardness of both G10 and Micarta is variable, especially with respect to one another. Depends on the specifics of the resins used. Lots of possible variations.
There can be much variation in the surface textures of both Micarta and G10. Any comparison of wet or dry grippiness or water uptake is going to be much more dependent on the individual specimen than on the genera.
"warm to the touch" comment is nonsense.

I would be interested if somebody offered actual information on the relative durability of G10 vs Micarta knife handles. I've certainly never noticed any difference.
 
I know this was a basic, maybe silly, question.
The reason I asked was yesterday I picked up a new-ish Spyderco PM2 with damp hands and when I set it down you could see wet shapes where my fingers had been, and then they sort of just vanished. As if the scales absorbed the moisture like a sponge.
I've never seen that on any other G10 handled knives.

Terotuf is supposed to be good around water and not supposed to swell up.
 
Terotuf is nice, but it picks up dirt and is hard to clean. Use it in darker colors. G10 is great, but Suretouch (G10 layered with rubber) is an order of magnitude above it in my opinion, for its vastly superior grip. Micarta is also excellent. All of these materials have their own charm, and it comes down to individual preferences. My preference of these three for user blades, especially bigger ones, is Suretouch, then Micarta, then straight G10.
 
There are several other things I don't agree with in that post. You might cite the source you got it from.

You may not agree with some things in my post, but here is the source that I referenced....

 
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I know this was a basic, maybe silly, question.
The reason I asked was yesterday I picked up a new-ish Spyderco PM2 with damp hands and when I set it down you could see wet shapes where my fingers had been, and then they sort of just vanished. As if the scales absorbed the moisture like a sponge.
I've never seen that on any other G10 handled knives.

The surface of G10 is semi-porous (micro pores), and moisture will fill the pores, but it's not going to absorb moisture like a sponge. If you were to look at the surface of G10 under a microscope it would appear rough and porous. And then there is the finish of G10. A rough finish will be more porous, and a polished finish less porous.

The moisture from your hand prints wasn't absorbed deep into the scales of your PM2, it just filled the micro pores and then evaporated. Although, some fluids, like skin oil, can remain in the pores of G10 and produce a lasting darker appearance, particularly on a rougher surface.

It could just be that the scales of your PM2 were more porous/rougher than the handles you have previously experienced.
 
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You may not agree with some things in my post, but here is the source that I referenced....

There's a lot of sites that quote and misquote each other. That appears to be one of them. I've worked with polymers, paints, composite materials. and metals for about 45 years. So the inaccuracies jump out at me.
 
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