Ganga ram vs bonecutter ?

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Dear Forumites, I recently came across this (first) photo by CDsnyder from 2008. It shows a 17.5" Chiruwa style Ganga Ram. I must admit I went weak at the knees when I saw it :o .
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...7.5-quot-Chiruwa-Ganga-Ram?highlight=cdsnyder
Auntie put the next photo of an 18" Chiruwa style Bonecutter up yesterday for the DOD: beautiful !!
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...for-7-27-Pix-Bonecutter-Hasiya-and-Great-Buys
Can someone please point out the differences (apart from length) to this newbie ?
The Ganga Ram was by Tara Bhadur, the Bonecutter by Sgt. Khadka .
At the moment, I deeply desire, and am saving for, an exact twin of the Ganga Ram in the photo.
One final question, this HIKV I've read about, could someone please list the symptoms ?
Not for me of course, a friend .
 
This particular GR you crave has the characteristics of the Sgt. Khadka BC. Full tang and the high bevel edge are the points I'm refering to, most standard GR are stick tang and the edge isn't as deep. The current BC's that have been popping up should satisfy your craving and then some.
 
Does anyone have a link to when the original Bonecutters started showing up? Or know the history of the Bonecutter? Was it a Ganga Ram clone or did it have its own roots. I tried to look it up but my search isn't working this morning.

As for the Ganga Ram, the HI website states this as the history:
"This 22 inch almost 3 pound khukuri [top] was inspired by an 80 year old village kami named Ganga Ram Bishwakarma and was named after him. It is excellently executed. Handle may vary slightly from that shown. Also available in 18 inch length."

The Bonecutter and ASTK are just about the only models not mentioned on the site so I can't find any history on them. Here is a post from 2009 about the Bonecutter but I cannot vouch for its accuracy. http://hollowdweller.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1131&view=next Looks like a Sgt. Khadka mark.

Plus, if you ever wanted to know who was the victor in one of the most epic battles known to man, here is the proof! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr70OybISWo
 
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Hi Blinky!

This is the Bonecutter vault. BEWARE! Explore at your discretion, so far the survivor has been happily zero!

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/542155-The-Bonecutter-Files

I believed the original Bone-cutter was inspired by the now defunct Gurkha House.
In fact the making of it spawned another rare species called Super CAK, under the flagship of Sargeant himself.

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The one on top is from G.H and bottom from H.I.

Bill,

Some quick read ups about ASTK:

This model of Khukuri knife is named Amar Singh Thapa and is a replica of
the original Knife used by General Amar Singh Thapa, 250 years ago, in a war fought to centralize Nepal.

Prior to that time, Nepal was a series of different principalities, some ruled by British forces.
At the time,the Ghorka King was Prithivi Narayan Shah and Amar Singh Thapa waged war to unify Nepal by serving
his King. To this day, he is highly regarded as one of the National Heroes of Nepal.

His major achievement was the unification of Nepal, which he accomplished by the annexation of several
western principalities to the Kingdom of Nepal, like Jumla, Doti, Kumaon, Garwal, Dehradun, Srinagar, Kanga and Palpa.

He served as the Nepalese caretaker of the western principalities and protectorates west of the Mahakali River,
while waging small wars with the King of Punjab, Ranjit Singh. Amar Singh Thapa defended the western fronts of
Nahan, Chamba, Almora, Kangra, Saharanpur and Dehradrin against the assault of his British counterpart, General David Ochterriony.

The Sugauli Treaty was not to his liking and he preferred, instead, a temporary armistice in order to maintain the
possibility to claim the Nepalese possessions ceded to the British.

Another accomplishment of this National Hero of Nepal was the Temple of the Goddess Ganga, which he built in the
early 19th century. His temple is still the central heart of the town of Gangotri in Uttarakhand, India. To this day, it is
one of the four sites in the Char Dham pilgrimage circuit, the most important Hindu pilgrimage circuit in the Indian Himalayas.

Amar Singh Thapa retired from service to his King and died on his pilgrimage to Gosaikunda. Historical records indicate
that he carried this knife named for him during some of his battles for Nepalese unification.- IKRHS
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The Karma kukri by Sgt Khadka? If you scroll down to the first pic, does anyone recognize what that kukri is? Has lines like an M43 with its rounded spine and pointy tip but different in other ways. Very nice looking kukri indeed!
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It's something that kept away from the crowd....shhh Bill..check your PM!:D :p
 
As far as I know, the Ganga Ram has a shallow bevel and stick tang; the Ganga Ram Special has a shallow bevel and chiruwa handle; and the Bonecutter has a deep bevel, chiruwa handle and flared (or at least wider) pommel. Here's a pic of my 20.5" GRS:

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Quote: "I believed the original Bone-cutter was inspired by the now defunct Gurkha House.
In fact the making of it spawned another rare species called Super CAK, under the flagship of Sargeant himself.
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The one on top is from G.H and bottom from H.I......."


Jay, the origanal was from Gurkha Knives run by a fellow named Praj.
 
ah, my babies :)

well. the current modern ganga ram does not look a lot like the praj or HI bonecutters, however, the very old style ganga rams DID very close resemble bonecutters...

the bonecutter tends to have a thinner edge with a higher "grind" (more slicey), and a partial "tang" the full width of the leaf. also, by my request, they are full tang - i'm just funny that way. i also specificed Sgt Khadka, as he imho is the master of the full tang samsher, and well, it seemed a good fit. i love his handles as well, and that was a special enticement.

contrast to GRS, and they tend to have a slightly blunter, more choppy edge, it's "thicker" for lack of a better word at this time of night. the sides are typically flats, not a slight concave fuller. typically they are also rat/stick tang (as were the original praj bonecutters). the handles are a bit different. definitely not like Sgt's (less bell shaped - somewhat like a Siru iirc).

and uh, well, imho, out of the box, the bonecutter is the most choppy thing there is. followed by the samsher, and the GRS. sure, you could reprofile the edges some, but inherently the bonecutter feels like a khukri that's 2 inches longer - just a massive chopping THING.

get some :)

also, don't be confused by the Super-CAK - that was an interesting experiment :) it's not a bonecutter. it's its own very special hybrid. i'd like to see the Sgt make more of those. i'm happy the one i had is in good hands too.
 
the bonecutter tends to have a thinner edge with a higher "grind" (more slicey), and a partial "tang" the full width of the leaf. also, by my request, they are full tang - i'm just funny that way. i also specificed Sgt Khadka, as he imho is the master of the full tang samsher, and well, it seemed a good fit. i love his handles as well, and that was a special enticement.
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The high bevel on BC was what caught me during the wood-chipping session. I was covered in wood dust and continue to do so because the chopping was very enjoyable. Sgt. seemed to make his pommels a lot larger for the sake of stopping these huge choppers from flying violently out of hand.

The recent Bhakta Chitlangi sold in KDOTD has a very high bevel, in fact it's a classic already; I couldn't help but to salivate over Bhakta's ideals - High bevel for deep chopping and slicing, 3 rivets for that ultimate full tang strength, 1 fuller, large pommel and at 22+", that's a beast for real. It's an ideal knife for assailants who wished to be sliced into cold cuts.

I could only hope they make this more in the future.

don't be confused by the Super-CAK - that was an interesting experiment it's not a bonecutter. it's its own very special hybrid. i'd like to see the Sgt make more of those. i'm happy the one i had is in good hands too.
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The elusive "Super CAK"....when are you gonna get done?
 
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