GEC Question

afishhunter

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GEC + Patina + Scratches from Sharpening = "Bad"?

I think I made a "oops" today, and sliced a apple with my GEC Greenbriar jigged bone 610211. :(
A light patina has started on both blades.

I know from not GEC knives with carbon steel blades, a patina will eventually render any blade etching "invisible".
How important are the "Northfield UN-X-LD" and "1 of 35" etchings?
(even if the "1 of 35" is optimistic by ten. According to the production totals there were 25 Greenbriar jigged bone 610211's with a serial number, not 35.)
 
From your post (sharpening scratches, cutting things) it sounds like either it was a user, or you intend for it to be a user. Either way, it's not pristine, so I say use it like you own it, those etchings are not important at all!
 
You might use some flits to take the patina away while preserving the etch long enough for a nice picture and then you can use it at your leisure and just look at the picture when you want to recall it’s (near) virginal state. Enjoy using the knife and don’t worry about the etch. It’s just the cool packaging that is supposed to get removed with use.
 
I use my knives. If it gets scratched it is a badge of honor. It shows it is not a safe queen. It is like the difference between pretend soldiers and those who actual have been.
 
I whole heartedly agree with what’s been posted so far. I find as I age that the knives I use regularly are the ones that give the most enjoyment. “Mint” and “unused” knives don’t stir me nearly as much as they once did. I think the more you carry and use it, the more you will enjoy it.
 
My thoughts are that even if a knife was rare and valuable, but you would never sell it due to it being a gift( I feel the same way) then its value to anyone else is pointless. Now there are 2 ways to look at a gift, one: keep it pristine enjoy its beauty and never use it because its a gift of friendship and special, or two: use it and and enjoy it as a daily reminder of friendship because its special. I personally go with use it and enjoy it. I have 2 GEC's that are gifts from great people here on the porch, both have dark patina, and the Bullnose in particular is scuffed up and dinged up. It is my first ever GEC,and was I believe give in the spirit of giving me the experience of their quality at a time when I was financially unable to do so. It also went a long way to helping me through a dark chaper in my life that was thankfully coming to a close at that time. I believe the giver of that knife derives happiness that it was well received and has been well used. I also believe the giver of your knives has read your posts and gathers that like me your more the "user" type and gifted knives he thinks you'd get much enjoyment in the use of. Just my 2cents;)
 
I have a confession. I'm fine with using my knives.

Still, one day I had my week old #29 stockyard whittler in bloodwood and it hadn't been used except some made up obligatory uses. Then I dropped it one night off the bed and it hit the corner of the frame rail and put a dent in it on the wood and bolster. It was almost unnoticeable, but I did. You know how it is?! My heart sank.

It really wasn't that big of a deal, and if it was already broken in, or if I had gotten it while actually using it as opposed to a careless brush off the nightstand it wouldn't have been a big deal.

Anyway. Knives, well...user knives, are supposed to get a few scratches and carbon blade knives are definitely supposed to get some patina. I will sometimes clean the patina and start over but thats my thing and it depends. Sometimes I won't.

I don't however just throw my knife in my pocket with my keys and change. I know some people have no problem with that, but I have my stuff where I have a free pocket just for my knife, so I see no reason to wear it unnecessarily or completely care free.

I think there are several preferences regarding how to carry and even use it. There are collectors, users, and collectors that use and users that collect. But if you are going to use it its going to get some use marks of one kind or another.
 
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My thoughts are that even if a knife was rare and valuable, but you would never sell it due to it being a gift( I feel the same way) then its value to anyone else is pointless. Now there are 2 ways to look at a gift, one: keep it pristine enjoy its beauty and never use it because its a gift of friendship and special, or two: use it and and enjoy it as a daily reminder of friendship because its special. I personally go with use it and enjoy it. I have 2 GEC's that are gifts from great people here on the porch, both have dark patina, and the Bullnose in particular is scuffed up and dinged up. It is my first ever GEC,and was I believe give in the spirit of giving me the experience of their quality at a time when I was financially unable to do so. It also went a long way to helping me through a dark chaper in my life that was thankfully coming to a close at that time. I believe the giver of that knife derives happiness that it was well received and has been well used. I also believe the giver of your knives has read your posts and gathers that like me your more the "user" type and gifted knives he thinks you'd get much enjoyment in the use of. Just my 2cents;)

The young man who sent the 610211 also sent a 852211 (Stag) Harness Jack, a Case TB61028W Dam tear drop, and a Grohmann R350S.

We both agree that they are all too nice to just sit around in the tube/box in a drawer or sit on display and gather dust.
I've never had much use for "safe queens" (if I had a safe I might feel differently?) or "wall hangers". I always figured knives, firearms, muzzle loaders, fishing rods and reels, and archery stuff, were made to be used. I have always tried to use the ones I have. Perhaps not as often as I'd like .... but they do get used.

My ... "difficulty" ... is if something were to happen to these, I would never be able to replace them, even if I could find another "just like it". If for no other reason my budget is more (BTI) Imperial, maybe with an Old Timer, Rough Rider, and offshore made Marbles, once in a while.

Hivoltage Hivoltage I'd rather not wear these out for the same reason. I'm pretty sure if I used them as hard as my grandfather, great grandfather, great-great grandfather, and so on, used their pocket knives, I could wear them out in 2 to 5 years, which used to be the "average" a pocket knife was expected to last. (Needless to say, but I'll say it anyway: "Our forefathers used their pocket knives a heck of a lot harder than we do today.")
Of course so far as I know, they only carried one at a time, whereas I carry at least 3 or 4. So it might take me a little longer, perhaps as much as a year or two, to wear them out.

I did break down and put a Marbles 278 "Demo knife" back in my pocket, along with a (BTI) Old Timer 858OTB. Since the "Demo Knife" is 100% 440A, I put it in a thin vinyl sleeve that came with my Bundeswehr, so it cannot scratch the other 5 that are in the same pocket.
(left wrist is messed up from a hereditary bone disorder, so I can't use a left trousers pocket.)
No coinage, so I don't have to worry about scratches from that. My keys (when I have need to carry them, which at the assisted living, ain't often) get clipped onto a belt loop.
I think I'll get some additional knife sleeves when I get paid on the 3rd, anyway. A leather slip for an Opinel #7 and #8 is under $2.50. A couple of those should work.
A needle, thread, and a couple cheap wash cloths to cut up to make sleeves are also an option.
(nothing"wrong" with a guy knowing how to sew, and/or cook. Cooking a meal can be cheaper than McDonalds et-all.)
 
A bit of patina doesn't hurt. ;)

I completely understand, not everyone likes patina and a lot of you like to preserve knives as close to mint for the future. You can carry anf use a knife with thought as well, doesn't have to be completely beat up.

I have a 73 from 2009. N° 28 of 30, if I trust the etch. By far not your rarest GEC, also not the most common one. It's all scratched up from sharpening, it has pepper spots on the blades and backsprings, superglu in the gaps between the bone covers and bone liners, the 1 of 30 and Northfield UNxLD etches are hard to pick up even with the naked eye, let alone with the camera (especially in thid bad lighting, it's clowdy and snowing here, hopefully the low temperatures won't damage the blossoming fruit trees ...). It's a great user though and I think the wear and tear adds to the character, but that's something everyone has to decide for himself.

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You’ve got a nice knife. I have the same model, but Tidiute, ruby red jigged bone (1 of 25). 61 is one of my favorite patterns. I don’t intend to ever sell the one pictured below.

I’d say my treatment of this one is middle ground. I have carried it a decent amount over the years; but decidedly used gently, kept oiled, and patina free. Most of mine get to look closer to ISKRA and Rockon75’s examples. Old pics.

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If you don't plan to sell it, and do plan to use it, then the etch doesn't matter at all. It won't stay if you use and clean and sharpen the knife.

The 1 of 35 is for the whole run, not the serialized ones.
 
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