GEC Tidioute Moose mini-review from first time GEC owner

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When I first started thinking about purchasing this Tidioute Moose, I did a few searches and there wasn't much information about them, so I decided to do a mini-review on the one I ended up buying. This is my first purchase of the Moose pattern, and my first GEC knife.

My first impression upon opening the package was "what a beauty". I think the minimalist design of this knife, with it's plain bolsters, simple hotdog shield with no lettering, and classy black ebony scales perfectly complements the no nonsense, heavy duty user nature of this pattern. Nessmuck would approve, I think.

Here are what I see as the pros and cons of my copy of this knife:

Pros:
1) nice to look at. I love the ebony scales.
2) very heavy duty back springs should make it about as safe in use as a slipjoint can be. (but see #2 in cons)
3) 2 good sized blades (3") with two different blade shapes in a still pocketable package
4) heavy, substantial feel fits my hand perfectly
5) 1095 steel should be easy to sharpen, tough, and I love patina, and the way it changes the look of the knife over time.
6) fit and finish is the best I've ever experienced in my limited experience of admittedly low to medium priced traditional knives (with two exceptions-see below). It has perfectly centered blades, perfectly smooth but heavily sprung walk and talk, zero bolster gaps

Cons:
1) most expensive knife I've ever purchased ($91). I am lucky because I tend to be attracted to inexpensive "peasant/farmer/user" types of knives. I have quite a few Moras, Opinels, a Douk-Douk, a Mercator, a Svord, a yellow Delrin Case Sodbuster Jr, etc. You get the picture. This purchase was a premeditated attempt to see how the other half lives!
2) the heavy duty back springs make it about as unsafe to open and close as a slipjoint can be. Even with the half stops, you had better make certain your fingers are out of the way when closing it! Those with weak hands or flimsy fingernails need not apply. I would put the pull at a 9/10.
3) It only has full length blades, nothing small for detailed whittling. I knew that going in, of course. I have a few stockmen pattern knives I can use for their small sheepsfoots if I know I'm going to want to whittle.
4) might be a bit heavy/large for carrying in some types of clothing. Not uncomfortable, but it doesn't disappear in your pocket like some knives do. It is 4-1/8" long closed.
5) Despite the mostly great fit and finish , there are two issues that let this knife down. First, it has gaps between the springs and the liners, and between the liners and the scales. Not large gaps, mind you. You can only see them if you open the blades and hold it up to a bright light. But it must be said that it's gaps are no better than my Case and even Rough Rider knives. This doesn't bother me, because I don't normally hold a knife up to a light looking for gaps!

The other issue does bother me, though. The blades on this knife came considerably less sharp than any other knife I have purchased. Most of the length of both blades were what I would call barely usable, and the tips of both blades were extremely dull. I am talking very, very dull. Kind of a bummer. I know how to sharpen a knife, but it took me a long time with a ceramic rod and an arkansas stone (all I had on me when I received the knife in the mail at work) to get them passably sharp, and the tips have a long way to go still. If Case and even Rough Rider and Opinel can ship knives that are super sharp right out of the box, I would expect the same from GEC, especially at the much higher price point.

I hope this review is of some use to potential Moose purchasers, or perhaps first time GEC purchasers. Despite the few cons, I have to say that I love this knife and I'm sure I will carry and use the heck out of it for many, many years.
 
Sounds like an honest, fair review. Great looking knife. It should serve you well. Thanks for taking the time to review it for us.
 
Great review and a nice knife! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and picture.
 
I agree, that is a great looking knife. With all the fancy window dressing you see on the various knives that get posted this knife stands out for it's understated beauty. You did a really good job breaking down your likes and dislikes. My guess would be that the more you use the knife the less the pull will bother you.

You did leave out an important piece of information, though. Will you be going back to your peasant/farmer style or are you hooked on the fancier bolstered styling of the moose?
 
I agree, that is a great looking knife. With all the fancy window dressing you see on the various knives that get posted this knife stands out for it's understated beauty. You did a really good job breaking down your likes and dislikes. My guess would be that the more you use the knife the less the pull will bother you.

You did leave out an important piece of information, though. Will you be going back to your peasant/farmer style or are you hooked on the fancier bolstered styling of the moose?

Well, besides liking peasant/inexpensive knives, I am also interested in having an eclectic collection. My small group of traditionals is from a number of different manufacturers, countries of origin, patterns, and handle materials. What I am itching for next might be something in a handle material I don't yet have, in a pattern I haven't tried yet, and with stag handles, which would be new to me. I dont have any Sheffield made knives, or anything with stag scales. A nice stag 2 blade jack from Taylor's Eye Witness has crossed my mind once or twice. I guess that answers your question! I am now hopelessly addicted to all sorts of pocket knives, not just peasant knives!
 
The pattern is the 541214M Large Moose. The 54 is used for Harness Jack, Cattleman, Moose, Big Jack, and Big Horn. 4 1/16 inches closed

The 53 is almost the same size frame but used for the Cuban Stockman, Muskrat, Cattle Baron, Cattle Rancher, Furtaker Muskrat, and Cuban Pen. 4 1/8" closed

Info is from:
http://www.collectorknives.net

I only know this because I just ordered a 53 Muskrat from them.
 
I believe the moose has been a 53 an improved type pattern with a wharnie and a spear. When I think of the moose I think of the 54 pattern which is usually ran with moose and jack patterns in the same runs. I own 53 and 54 and I'm not real sure of the differences in frame size as they both seem to be 4 1/4'' closed. I agree I love the pattern. The pull is stiff. I like the Northfields for this manor as you can put the screw driver end of a crown lifter, beer scout or SAK into the groove to aid in lifting. I'm a surgical nurse and my hands get constantly exposed to harsh scrub soaps making my nails a bit flimsy unless away from work a bit. Perhaps give long pulls and a cap lifter or SAK screw driver a try.

-Brandon
 
Great picture by the way. Weathered wood always compliments traditionals, IMO.
- Brandon
 
I believe the moose has been a 53 an improved type pattern with a wharnie and a spear. When I think of the moose I think of the 54 pattern which is usually ran with moose and jack patterns in the same runs. I own 53 and 54 and I'm not real sure of the differences in frame size as they both seem to be 4 1/4'' closed. I agree I love the pattern. The pull is stiff. I like the Northfields for this manor as you can put the screw driver end of a crown lifter, beer scout or SAK into the groove to aid in lifting. I'm a surgical nurse and my hands get constantly exposed to harsh scrub soaps making my nails a bit flimsy unless away from work a bit. Perhaps give long pulls and a cap lifter or SAK screw driver a try.

-Brandon

As an aside Brandon I have RA and was worried about the pulls on the Moose combined with midpoint nail nick location on the clip. I went with a Muskrat which has the nicks way out on the end for more pull leverage. We'll see how it works out.
 
Your knife-gathering history sounds a lot like mine: Opinels, Svords, Moras, Marttiinis, a few lower-to middle-priced traditionals, a couple of Condors, a few SAKs, a couple of Anzas, and a few modern knives that helped kindle my interest. Since joining this forum, I have bought a couple of sodbusters and a Buck canoe, but still haven't tried anything from GEC.

This forum is giving me quite an education. There are a lot of knowledgeable guys here, but a review like yours means a lot to me. Thank you.
 
thanks for the review, I think you'll need to reprofile the blades with a diamond stone to really get the most out of the 1095 steel, and the nice slim grinds of those blades.
 
You could also get the Moose in the #66 frame. The Bullwinkle...but having not gone far in the research as to the difference between a 54 vs, 66
but I'm sure someone knows...
 
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