General Case Questions

[TedderX]

1. What is "second cut" bone?

2. I've noticed several tang stamps say "xxxx-1/2". What does the "1/2" stand for?

 

[Railsplitter]

Not sure what second cut bone is but the "1/2" designates a Clip main blade.

 

[The Fort]

Are you possibly referring to second cut stag? That would be where a first cut takes off a section of the stag, primarily very high spots, leaving a surface that is flatter with some natural recesses in it. I hope that explanation helps.

 

[Railsplitter]

Not sure what second cut bone is but the "1/2" designates a Clip main blade.

I should probably elaborate on this for clarity.

You won't see the "1/2" stamp on all Case knives with a Clip blade. Case only uses it on patterns that offer more than one type of main blade and I believe they only do that in some cases. It's one of those things that's a general rule of thumb but not carved in stone.

 

[Rookie82]

Some companies use the inside stag that is left after the "bark" of the stag has been used for handles, and they cut 2nd chunks of the inside stag out, then jig it to try and resemble stag features, and call that 2nd cut stag. Not sure that Case is one who does that though.

There is also something called BoneStag, or StagBone, which is when they use a cut of bone, but again jig it so that it looks like it has stag features. Again, I don't believe Case has done that though.

 

[jc57]

These three are from Case's Second Cut Antique Bone family:





So to me, it means bone that has been jigged with slightly wavy longitudinal furrows that has something of a pocket-worn buffing done to it.

The 1/2 in the pattern indicates that the main blade can come in either a spear or clip, and the 1/2 indicates it is the clip version. You see it on the Barlow pattern a lot. 62009 is a bone or jigged Delrin spear point blade Barlow. 62009 1/2 is a clip point Barlow (like the one in my first picture).

 

[TedderX]

I appreciate the thoughts put into this. But I have a pocketknife that doesn't follow that logic. (i.e.- "1/2" on clip blades whose "normal" blade is something different).

This is a Case Sawcut Caramel Bone Backpocket with a skinner blade. As you can see, it has the "1/2" on it. So maybe it stands for something else?

 

[Trout Hound]

Case does have a fairly recent line of "6.5" bone stag, including some Bose collaborations.


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[Obsessed with Edges]

Some companies use the inside stag that is left after the "bark" of the stag has been used for handles, and they cut 2nd chunks of the inside stag out, then jig it to try and resemble stag features, and call that 2nd cut stag. Not sure that Case is one who does that though.

There is also something called BoneStag, or StagBone, which is when they use a cut of bone, but again jig it so that it looks like it has stag features. Again, I don't believe Case has done that though.

Case has produced their 6.5 BoneStag handles for a while, maybe ~15-20 years or so (possibly back into the '90s). The '6.5' designation is the logical 'morph' between using '6' to designate jigged bone, and the '5' as they've used to identify their stag, in the first digit of the pattern number. The description below is from their 'Case College' site describing their various handle material designations ( http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/handles/handlematerials.php ) :

"6.5 - 6.5 BoneStag®
6.5 BoneStag®, a Case registered trademark, is bone handle which is jigged and treated with flame to achieve the look of stag antler material. "

David

 

[black mamba]

Also, the 6.5 always comes at the beginning of the model number, never in the fractional form at the end (½).

TedderX, the example you show is their back pocket model, which normally comes with a clip blade.
The bullnose skinner blade in yours is the alternate blade shape, hence the ½ at the end of the model number.

 

[r redden]

This is a great example of Case Bone Stag. I really like this handle material and keep saying I'm going to buy some more example's of it but seems every time I'm ready to go something else catches my eye. I do think it looks great but as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder so you will have to decide what you think.

 

[black mamba]

Randy, that's a great example, as I prefer the toasted look. Not all the 6.5 bonestag is as toasty. Here is a saddlehorn like yours, but from 2004, and it is not toasted.

2010 Humpback Stockman with light toasting

2008 Large Stockman with dark toasting

 

[Ice Tigre]

I have always read/been told the 1/2 on the end of the Cheetah is part of the pattern ID number..

Or does it indicate the clip blade is not standard in it? But I've Never seen one of those without a clip blade.

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[TedderX]

I have always read/been told the 1/2 on the end of the Cheetah is part of the pattern ID number..

Or does it indicate the clip blade is not standard in it? But I've Never seen one of those without a clip blade.

?

I am curious about this as well because I have only personally seen Cheetahs with a clip point as well.

It is POSSIBLE that the first Cheetah model was not a lockback, but a slip joint. I'm not sure that is why it is "1/2" though.

 

[Rookie82]

Case has produced their 6.5 BoneStag handles for a while, maybe ~15-20 years or so (possibly back into the '90s). The '6.5' designation is the logical 'morph' between using '6' to designate jigged bone, and the '5' as they've used to identify their stag, in the first digit of the pattern number. The description below is from their 'Case College' site describing their various handle material designations ( http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/handles/handlematerials.php ) :




David

Thanks for the info. I'm not a big Case collector, so that is handy information to learn. My Case experience is mostly with the Tested era. Makes sense though, having 6.5 = bonestag.

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

I have always read/been told the 1/2 on the end of the Cheetah is part of the pattern ID number..

Or does it indicate the clip blade is not standard in it? But I've Never seen one of those without a clip blade.

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One of the collecting guides I refer to mentions a non-locking '6111' pattern from the 'Tested XX' era (1920-1940) with a spear blade (and no swing guard). I still haven't found any internet references to that version specifically (all my searches return the 6111-1/2 pattern with the clip blade, a.k.a., the currently known 'Cheetah'). So, I'm guessing the 6111 is pretty rare; and my collecting guide would seem to confirm that, based on valuation given for it.


David

 

[JD Bear]

Has anyone gotten light bonestag and tried toasting it more themselves? I have a large stockman that is really light, almost more of an oatmeal bone color. It doesn't really have any amber or black at all and I was thinking about taking a little torch to it and seeing what happens....