I like being direct as well as I feel most realize. I apoligize for having to come back on to send out a knife part, to someone or to direct someone to where I can be reached for information, it is a pain in the butt for me as well, years of postings are difficult to cut completely. I can assure you that I have never begged for anything in my life, as far as some of my friends I agree, I know there opinion and they realize the position I am in so there is no need of them to continue tell me there opinion. However what they choose to do is there right. I am afraid that I have no choice on the matter. As far as being emotional your right that is the type of individual I am that is why I do not want the history of this company and the people who created it forgotten or misrepresented. That is why being in the catch 22 I purposely put myself in, that I am forced to give alternate addresses to be reached at ect. , In fact Mate I would love to be able to address the point in person over a pint so that I could explain to you just how neat a stitch I can knit. 26 years working for the NYS prison system taught me how to sew a fine stitch in an extremely direct manner. What transpired here was between myself and another individual. It involved the validation of information given as fact and written opinions stated as fact. I felt that the individual who threatened to not post any more was an important factor on the forum I left instead so that he would not feel " tortured" by my questions I had left a codisil in my leaving ( the words for now ) in my leaving posting. I did this so that I could clear up matters like these where I could be reached ect. You are correct you do not know the story however this is my reason for these limited posts. I hope now however you are enlightened. Thankyou for you opinion and in fact I cannot relieve myself of my given word. While there may be others who could. I am sure most will understand that. I truly truly did not want to rehash this and wish it to die its own death. You asked . Now in fact since it has come up there is a second reason for my departure I see Phil ( the moderator ) is gone I feel that may be my fault ( I do not honestly know ) if it is I could never do a turn around at this point. I hope this has been honest enough. LT PS Excuse me I have to get back to my Knitting and beer.