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Hello everyone. This is my first post here at blade forums, huzzah.

I have always been very interested in general weaponsmithing, and particularly bladesmithing. However, it is only recently that I have actually taken steps to learn the art and trade. In doing some research, I managed to find this site and the ABS homepage. I don't think I can describe how excited I was when I found that there is a master smith, Sava Damlovac, that lives about 10 miles from my house.

Mr. Damlovac was gracious enough to spend a couple hours showing me equipment, works in progress, and discussing the trade. Seeing as I am still in college and not able to dedicate either enough time or money to proper training at the moment, he suggested that I begin by learning to grind out a blade with stock removal. I believe this may be the most cost effective starting point that will fit with my lack of spare time.

My question is, what kind of equipment will I need to start learning. A grinder is obvious, but do you have any suggestions about brand/style/etc. I know that I'll also need some files and sandpaper, but am curious about what kind of files I should use. Also, and probably just as important, how do I go about buying stocks of steel? My only knifemaking experience is with grinding out old lawnmower blades, but I would want my first real knife to at least use respectable steel. Thanks for all the help.
 
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a grinder
well you realy dont have to have one of those they just let you sand and file faster (mess up faster too)
files and a drill and you might be able to have a friend that has a drill
get things close to how you want them and send it for heat treat
real known steel is not badly priced and makes a sharp knife shaped object (ugly knife made with good steel and good heat treat is still a knife)
unknown steel can be priced nicely and perform badly (purdy knife thats bad steel or heat treat is just art)
 
Howdy!
I'm not overly experienced in any particular area, but of the things you'll find is that you can make a respectable knife out of most anything. Lawnmower blade steel is plenty respectable- I know of many people making nice knives out of the steel. If you want to buy bar stock, go to texasknifesupply (website), and pick what you'd like.

Something that I should mention before I go any further is safety- don't forget to pick up an ANSI rated pair of safety glasses, and a respirator aswell.

As far as grinders go- I'd reccomend a cheap sander over a grinder... or both. An angle grinder works great for rough work, and most any belt sander will yield decent results with time, practice, and allot of patience.

For files, you'll find yourself with all sorts. Pick up a standard flat file of medium size for grinding away at steel. Needle files are cool for precision work and embelishment.


Other convenient or semi neccesary tools are: hacksaw or bandsaw, and a drill or drill press.

I'm sure I missed something, but those're the basics that I can think of right now.
 
im a beginning maker myself...last year i bought a harbor frieght brand 1 x 30? beltsander...it worked ok for a while, but i felt like i needed a bit more tool...

sears put their craftsman 2 x 42 belt sanders on sale last week for $99, so mine is on order...im hoping it will greatly outperform my HF sander, and more importantly- be a good starting point for grinding blades...
 
I bought a cheap (89$ on sale) 4x36 belt sander from sears. It really sped things up from the hand filing and sanding. It takes a lot more practice though. Like someone else here said, the heat treat is very important. You have to find out specifics for each type of steel. Jantz supply has a good selection of barstock. I would recomend 1095 steel because it's cheap to practice with, and you can heat it with a torch to non-magnetic state to heat treat it. I quench in hot olive oil.
 
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