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AmadeusM

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A treasure for "This Old House" !!! The fastest way to destroy a community is with welfare. I watched, in NYC, a community that had been going down hill . Then people ,first time home owners, moved into the neighborhood .They were living the American dream !! They painted and polished their houses and the neighborhood got better and their property values increased. After a while the city put welfare people there . They didn't care about the neighborhood. The houses weren't theirs so they didn't keep them up, they smashed things etc.The neighborhood rapidly went down hill !!! The first time home owners were furious , they watched their American dream collapse , thanks to welfare !!
 
Sad but true Mete, same with most rented property too.
The cul desac I live in was super classy when I first moved here. All the homes were occupied by the owner. Now two out of six homes are rentals and needless to say they have gone down hill big time.
Just a fact, if you don't own it, you won't spend the time and money to take care of it.
 
Yep, rentals suck. But it's also the fault of inattentive landlords who fail to maintain properties or adequately screen renters.

But a direct cause-effect correlation between welfare and urban decay though? Slobby people are probably more likely to be on welfare and more likely to be renters.

-Bob
 
AmadeusM said:
http://www.seedetroit.com/pictures/urbandecay/pages/deturbandecay29.htm

from:http://www.seedetroit.com/pictures/urbandecay/

I just wanted to share these, as they made me think. When you get beyond the initial depressing feeling, you kinda start to wonder about the history of the piece and what specific wrong turn it took to get to the present point.

The one I singled out at the top, it feels kind of serene, with nature taking over, feeling at peace if you will.
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Thanks for those pics , I love pictures like that.
Makes me wonder what it was like when those buildings were first built , who lived there , what did they do... When did it turn into slum.
Sad , some of those are quite stiking , the architecture back then was much more visually appealing IMO.
Also wonder if any of those are haunted , some of them look like they almost have to be. :eek:
 
I find that stuff fascinating too.

cause-effect correlation between welfare and urban decay
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that's a tough one. There are many complex issues. It probably starts whith the move to the burbs starting in the 50's. That eventually erodes tax base, then city services start to fall. This sets up a feedback loop that excelrates people leaving. What's left is people who don't have the resources to move, which probably means statistically they are more likely to be on welfare.

LOwer socio economic idicators means higher demand for public serevices, higher likelyhood of drug use, crime etc. This accelerates decay further.

Add to that now various addictive drugs that become engrained in society, further decay, further flight, further sinking.

BUsiness start to leave whiclh takes jobs away, further sinking. Property values fall no one wants to invest in the city.
 
Maximus Otter's article is interesting, but it doesn't provide evidence for or against the theory of "Welfare Creates Slobs". I bet a dollar that those people were slobs before they moved into the subsidized housing.

Want to know true frustration? Live next to trashy people that own their property.

Across the street from us is a small tract of welfare housing for seniors. The landscaping is well-maintained, perhaps the nicest lawn on the block. Residents who create problems are asked to leave. That's the solution, IMO, active and professional management.

The primary problem in many other areas, IMO, is that the homes properties were abandoned by the owners. Simply boarded up and forgotten, or rented out by apathetic absentee landlords. The magnificent mansion in the Detroit photos for example - I doubt that was ever a managed rental, and I'm confident it was never welfare housing.

-Bob
 
Hey Guys....

Cool pictures....

The first picture, I've actually seen what I believe is that house..
If I'm correct it is either right on Woodward, or very close to it....
I go that way every couple of weeks...

They are slowly cleaning it up, building new town houses in areas where houses like this once stood.

I've been through areas like these alot, and it's funny, because you can almost see the line where Detroit ends and the suburbs start.

There are brand new town houses directly across the street from houses like this...

That house in it's time must have been a beautiful house....

The wheels turn very slow in Detroit I've noticed..Only in the last few years has parts of Woodward started to become new again...
Many parts of it are still a shithole though....

ttyle

Eric
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