Giant Tom Krein multi-knife review with PICS!

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TK-1 Necker with green micarta
TK-4 with black micarta
TK-7 with sanded black G10
A one-of-a-kind hollow-ground Krein Walkabout with green micarta
They're all D2 except for the Walkabout which is A-2.

I know they look like safe queens, but they aren't. I don't BELIEVE in safe queens! I wear the necker. The TK-4 I do carry daily and have for a long time, but it just came back from a refurb. The TK-7 and the Walkabout, other than around the house, I just haven't had much occasion to use yet. Living in the city doesn't give me occasion to use larger knives like these very often and I haven't heard my buddy for a while who lives out of town that sometimes puts me to work doing the kind of work that these would be good for.




Since D2 is my favorite steel, Tom Krein's Knives were a natural attraction for me. I have tried Dozier's knives and I consider Krein and Dozier's to be of equal quality and value, but I personally like some flare - some personality - in even a working knife so Tom's are more my personal taste. I've already made complimentary comments about my personal dealings with Tom over in GB&U, but this isn't the place for that so let's talk nuts and bolts.

Tom's knives are of exceptional fit and finish. I realize you've heard that said about hundreds of knives, so I'll be specific. All 4 of my knives are perfectly symetrical. Each of the grinds on the left side is exactly mirrored on the right. Exactly. Not one milimeter forward or back. Not a little deeper or coarser on one side. They match. That's all. The handle scales are carefully radiused and matched to the tangs. If you close your eyes you can't tell by feel where handle meets metal. No bumps. No seams. Micarta in the hands of Tom Krein is really something to behold, but more on that later. Tom's are the kind of knives you'd fondle in front of the TV because it feels good to do so. They're rounded and radiused in all the right places and delightfully sticky in others. Using his knifes are a sensory experience like driving while seated in a leather bucket seat.

Let me do a little on each of them:

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The Walkabout
This is a one-of-a-kind. Tom asked me how I wanted it ground and suggested a flat grind. Against his recommendation, I had him hollow grind it because I like hollow grinds and have liked them on a big working knife since an old Buck 120 General I once had that I abused the heck out of. The result is interesting. The knife is light and ultra-fast in the hand like a fighter but shaped like a hard-working knife. It must have taken super-human skills to create a hollow grind that wide. Tom himself indicated that it was quite the challange. He mentioned something about having to cheat to do it. What ever he did it's executed perfectly - uniform and symetrical. The blade is very thin behind the edge and maintains the same thickness well up the blade (hense the cheating?). The blade has a nice temper - an almost a springy quality to it. I can get it to flex ever so slightly with my bare hands and if I hold it flat and lightly strike something hard with the tip, it rings. I can't wait to work with it. I'm sure that blade will really penetrate and since its light and has that choil I can choke up for regular cutting chores. The handle is a little big for me, but sometimes over-sized handles are better on tired hands. A person with large hands wearing gloves would certainly handle this one well. Next to maybe rag micarta, this is probably the finest I've ever seen and Tom gives it all the attention it deserves. When the knife first arrived I was simply stunned by the micarta. My only concern is that I may have made a mistake by ignoring Tom's advise to have it flat ground. I'm a little afraid that the thin steel behind the edge might bend or fracture under any kind of chopping, escpecially if I make a chop and then pull laterally with the knife to seperate the wood or something. It's definately a cutting machine and versatile, but I will take care how to apply it and not abuse it. It's like a giant version of my TK-7.


TK-7
The TK-7 was obviously designed to take anything you could possibly dish out. I'd put it up against a similar-sized Strider any day. I don't think you could break it. It's 0.2" thick D2 that's radiused on the back and around the guards to be comfortable under the pressures of hard work. The black G10 is flat on the sides and utilitarian, but rounded where it matters and mates to the steel perfectly. I admit that I had to wipe a tear from my eye when this knife arrived. ("WTF? Where's Tom's beautiful micarta?") When I wrote him and inquired he said, "Try it. I think you'll like it. If not, I'll fix it." I still like his micarta better, but there's something to be said for the slightly grippier finish of the sanded G10 (and the fact that I won't be afraid to mar it) on a knife that was ment to be used hard anyway. Speaking of hard use, this is where Tom's hollow grind really shines. The hollow grind allows the steel to be thinner behind the edge (which is the same on all but the necker) but quickly become thick so it has the strength this knife requires. The steel remains nearly full-thickness very close to the tip where it tapers down to, still, a pretty thick point. You're not going to break it off in anything. It's handle is a little longer than most people may be used to, but I figure it would allow a person to get two hands on the knife for leverage when neccessary. The knife is heavy, beefy and reasuring.

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TK-1
I hate neck knives. They weigh too much so they're uncomfortable tugging around my neck and since I'm a very short person they nearly always print under my shirt. I've tried a million of them and the closest thing I've ever had to something I could stand wearing is a TOPS ALRT necker that Tom made two custom sheathes for a while back to meet my needs. I even ended up hating that one after a very short while. That said, I'm wearing the TK-1 as I type this and I barely know it's there. It fits nicely between my man breasts and can't be seen through even a T-shirt. That tiny TOPS ALRT I have is WAY heavier than this TK-1. You can safely say that Tom's TK-1 is the perfect neck knife for people who hate neck knives because that's exactly how it worked out for me. Nice micarta as usual. It's only .09 thick and a remarkable .005 thick at the very edge. This thing will SAIL though the plastic wrap of a frozen pizza or a Chinese takeout container! (Remember, I'm an urban dweller.) While it still has that Tom Krein look, the design is significantly different than his other knives to accomodate it's purpose. It's swelled near the bottom for a good tug from it's sheath and ground high up the blade. Despite it's thinness and size you can hang on TIGHT to this sucker because of it's shape. I don't know how much experimentation it took to come up with this design, but was obviously very well thought out.


TK-4
My favorite. Now is a good time to talk about Tom's sheaths and micarta because it's important in this case. I wear this knife on my weak (left) side with the sheath between my belt and my jeans with my shirt pulled over it. It conceals very well this way and the outside observer can only see the outside of the Tek-lok and, I assume, probably wouldn't know what it is. Tom makes his own Kydex sheaths. Good ones. If you don't know the difference you've never had a really good one or a really bad one. I'm able to, quickly draw and replace this knife in it's sheath with my left (weak) hand without looking, with no problem at all, and without attracting attention as it makes a low "thud" as it reseats in the kydex. And I was able to do this on the first day I had the knife. That's a good kydex sheath. I have four custom knives this size with similar sheath setups from 4 different makers and I wear them all the same way. Tom's is by FAR the most comfortable to wear like that - pressed right up against my left love handle. So much so that when I had sent it to Tom to have the edge bevel lowered and have the kydex drilled to let moisture escape I tried wearing the others for a couple days and then stopped carrying them. I was happy to have this one back as I felt naked without it for a while. This is where the quality micarta work and radius really matter. The other three custom knives range from itchy to downright painful to wear. The TK-4, I barely notice. When you think about it, that's a sensitive spot to have a foreign object riding against all day - soft like your underarm - and believe me when I tell you even the slightest irritation feels like a thorn by the end of the day. The TK-4 has never bothered me - even on hot days. Carrying it all the time like I do, the sheath used to collect gunk - grit, lint, belly-button fuzz, etc. and along with the moisture, all of which couldn't escape from the sheath, I was having some trouble with the very tip of the knife abraiding and corroding. I had to frequently flush the sheath with a lot with hot water and leave it to dry on the dish rack and pay constent attention to servicing the tip of the blade. A quick trip to Tom's shop and he drilled the sheath and refurbed the knife and it's good as new. He says he drills all his sheaths now. The rest of the knife has never shown any rust spots which surprises me since I wear it up against my bare side, so it would collect body oils and salts, etc. I've learned through experience that finish has more to do with rust resistance than the type of steel. The very fine satin finish that Tom uses probably keeps rust at bay better than a more coarse one would. I guess it's yet another positive side effect of Tom's fine craftsmanship.

 
Nice review. I'll have to post a group photo soon of my Krein collection. Even after selling/trading a few away, I still have several.

I just got my Walkabout a week or so ago, and I love it. Mine is very thinly flat ground, all the way to the spine. I love D2 as well, but there's something about properly heat treated A2 that seems to get even sharper yet. I mean scary sharp!
 
Nice looking knives, thanks for the review and pictures.

The handle work looks particularly well done. Also, having the guards radiused makes them much nicer in the hand, and more durable as it reduces a stress riser.

AS you use the knives more, please keep us informed as to how they perform, and at what tasks.

In introducing the knives, you mentioned Bob Dozier, a very high standard indeed. I would be especially interested in how these knives compare to Dozier's knives. Dozier is usually recognized as having mastered heat treat of D2 steel, and grind his hunting knives to a very thin edge (his tactical knives are ground thicker for harder use.)

Things I am interested in are cutting ability in a variety of materials, grip comfort and secuirty, edge holding and durability in extended use.

It looks like you selected a package of knives that will perform a wide range of jobs. It is always nice to find a knifemaker you enjoy working with.
 
knifetester said:
In introducing the knives, you mentioned Bob Dozier, a very high standard indeed. I would be especially interested in how these knives compare to Dozier's knives. Dozier is usually recognized as having mastered heat treat of D2 steel, and grind his hunting knives to a very thin edge (his tactical knives are ground thicker for harder use.)

There is a bit of a Dozier connection. Tom's knives are all his own, but they are a fresh shoot off the Dozier family tree. According to A.G. Russell's site, he used to work in Bob Dozier's shop. I read a post on these forums once that said Dozier heat treats Tom's D2, how can you beat that?

I have 2 Doziers and one Krein (so far - I'm ordering another soon). The Krein is equal in every way to the Doziers, and exceeds the Doziers in finish quality. That is to say the Dozier's don't really lack anything, but the Krein just goes one step further. For instance, the edges of Dozier micarta handles are left slightly rough and unpolished whereas Tom polishes his all over. Tom's blade finish is a bit finer and shinier than Bob's.

As Fulloflead said, Tom's knives are perfectly symmetrical. The grinds are absolutely perfect. Dozier's are also perfect I should point out. I think if you like Doziers, you will like Tom's knives very much.
 
Some awesome Krein's there! I really like your chopper design, very cool.
 
Nice reviews, nice pictures - beautiful knives.
I really like the look of the TK7, have to put this one down on my wishlist.
Thanks fulloflead.
 
Wonderful group of knives.........that Walkabout is just plain bada$$! :cool:

Get the pics goin' Danbo....love to see 'em. :)
 
Nice review fol ! Impressive knives too !


Like the rest. . . .the Walkabout is HOT ! :)
 
Awesome knives. I couldn't find much on them through google. Does he have a website?

Thanks.
 
Any word on the A-2 versus the D-2? How about a quick comparison of how he does the 2 different steels.

I have a TK-1 coming my way with A-2...and can't wait.

Thanks for the pics and review. JT
 
JTurner said:
Any word on the A-2 versus the D-2?

Um... The A-2 is bigger. ;) :D

JTurner said:
How about a quick comparison of how he does the 2 different steels.

You'd have to ask him directly or go to the maker's forums and ask for a comparison. I've never used A-2 before, so I don't really know.
 
Isn't the Walkabout A-2 steel? Thought you could give me a quick rundown of how it compared to the D-2 steel. Remember...you like to use your knives, not turn them into safe queens.:)

Guess I'll have to wait until you get out of the city for the comparison.

JT
 
BTT with this baby! I didn't write all that and take all those pics for it to get buried on the next page so quick. ;)
 
Jim,
Thanks for the review and great pictures!

I will try and clear up any confussion on the heat treatment. I had the privilage to work under Bob Dozier for more than 3 years. Bob did all of my heat treating for several years. I am now using Paul Bos and have used Paul for the last 2-3 years. Bob was doing my heat treating as a favor to me and just got too busy.

Madfast,
Still making the walkabout. Just not hollow grinding one with blade stock this thin again. Even on a 14" wheel it was difficult to grind!!!

Thanks for the feedback.

Tom
 
Tom Krein said:
I had the privilage to work under Bob Dozier for more than 3 years.

To everyone who asked about Dozier,
I knew this, but didn't want to get into it in the review except to BRIEFLY explain why I, as a lover or D2, was attracted to Tom's stuff rather than the other great D2 man's work. (Any in-depth comparison would have been in bad taste in this case, IMHO.)

Tom,
As much as I like the idea of having a one-of-a-kind Krein Walkabout, you might consider making others like mine. You wouldn't believe the number of people who've gone bonkers over it either on the forums, in my "rep points" or through personal PMs and email. (I had posted pics of it once on the "other" forum too a while back.) There's just something about that knife.
 
Tom Krein said:
Jim,
Thanks for the review and great pictures!

I will try and clear up any confussion on the heat treatment. I had the privilage to work under Bob Dozier for more than 3 years. Bob did all of my heat treating for several years. I am now using Paul Bos and have used Paul for the last 2-3 years. Bob was doing my heat treating as a favor to me and just got too busy.

Madfast,
Still making the walkabout. Just not hollow grinding one with blade stock this thin again. Even on a 14" wheel it was difficult to grind!!!

Thanks for the feedback.

Tom

Thanks for the response Tom. what is the thickness of the blade? can the walkabout be made in S30V or even 3V? this is "the one". i've always admired your work and now i know which one to get! any reason why it's not on your website?
 
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