Glock Question

Shmackey

Shmackey

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I understand that Glock handguns do not have an external safety; instead, they have a three-stage safety system that sequentially disengages when you pull the trigger. This makes sense when there's no cartridge in the chamber, but what about after you fire a round? Then there's a cartridge in the chamber and no external safety? There must be a simple answer to this.
 
You are correct there is no external safety when a round is chambered, unless you count the center part of the trigger which must be depressed. The safeties are internal and are basically "drop" safeties (if you drop it it won't go off). I love Glocks due to the fact that when unholstered, all you do is pull the trigger.
Nick
 
I'm intrigued, but I don't think I get it. If that's what you want, couldn't you just use another handgun and never engage the safety?

I guess I might misunderstand the general purpose of a safety; I thought its purpose was to put another step before firing a gun. If a safety's purpose is generally to prevent a gun from firing when dropped, then the Glock makes a lot of sense.
 
It's my understanding that one can "accidentally" fire a chambered round from a Glock. The point is, you shouldn't have your finger on the trigger until you have aquired your target. Thus, when you are ready to shoot, you shoot without worrying about some lever or whatever.

~Mitch

p.s. just note that I don't own a Glock but I have shot a few.

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A Glock can not be "accidentally" fired. It can certainly be negligently discharged. The one and only way to fire a Glock is by pulling the trigger. One of the three safeties blocks the firing pin until the instant the trigger is depressed. When the trigger is released, the action is reset and the safety is back in place. Same deal every shot, unlike a traditional DA pistol, where the first shot is a long DA pull and the second is SA. This creates the hazard of reholstering a cocked pistol in the adrenaline rush if one has to fire and then holster up.
If you didn't worry about (almost all) revolvers not having safeties, the Glock should be no different.
 
I'm a newbie, so I didn't realize that almost all revolvers don't have safeties. Interesting.

Maybe it's because I'm a newbie, but it seems inherently dangerous to me to have a chambered round in a handgun and nothing but a trigger pull necessary for a discharge.
 
The best safety is the one between your ears. Glocks are like a revolver. I think they are pretty "Cop proof" and the only ND (negligent discharge) I have seen is the bonehead that tried to holster her Glock with her finger inside the trigger guard. I was a 1911 fan from the 70s, but now after 15+ years with an issue Glock, they are dependable and accurate. My 1911s are dependable and accurate, but they have some 'smithing. Glocks are good to go out of the box. Try http://glocktalk.com
 
Our department has been usuing Glocks for about 6 years now. (M23 in .40SW)
An old revolver fan, I was a bit skeptical at first, but these have proved to be a remarkable combat handgun. Safe, simple, reliable, and surprisingly accurate.

While it's true that the DA revolver can be fired "just by pulling the trigger", this is typically a long, hard trigger pull, in the area of 12-15 pounds. considerably more effort than required to release most "safety" devices!
 
All Glocks are equipped with an internal saftey which prevents them from accidentially being discharged when dropped.
And as far as an external saftey is concerned it is really unnecessary. Since you're not supposed to put your finger on the trigger until your ready to fire anyways. What's the point in having that one extra step (disengaging the saftey) which may cost you your life if you forget to disengage it in the "heat of the moment".
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The Glock may be Cop-proof, but is is also pretty easy for the BG who takes the Cop's gun away from him to figure out how to use it.

OTH, I love the way the sights line up so naturally for me (unlike the USP which really sucks). Personally I like SA (1911 style), but the Glock is a nice gun too....
 
I´ve heard that argument before about a BG taking away a LEO´s gun and shooting him because it´s so easy to operate.

In Sweden where I live the police are not allowed to have their guns chambered with a round. One of the reasons behind it being the risk of being shot by your own gun. They use a Sig Sauer P226.

Can´t agree with that though. It´s your responsibility to make sure noone else get hold of your gun. If you are not prepared to make that commitment you should be put behind a desk. Noone has said being a LEO is an easy job. They are most of the time doing a good job. But then there is always that LEO who can´t imagine anything bad happening. That kind of mentally doesn´t belong in a policedepartment.

Not attempting to flame you killerman. Just arguing with another view in mind. Sorry for being a bit off topic, but I´m writing a post for the practical tactical forum where I adress this and a couple of other problems.

Shmackey,
I think the Glock is a good gun, among other good guns. One of the most important things is that you get good training with your gun. Look at the price of a gun as a downpayment on a future investment in selfpreservation. An investment that continues every year by you going to the shooting range and once in a while taking a new course in how to use your gun in different situations.

Be well,
/Colinz
 
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