Going back in time...

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When I was a small boy growing up, my grandfather gave me a small pocket knife (I would be maybe five years old)… he showed me how to whittle sticks, sometimes I would spend a whole day making a pointless little carving… more often than not it got whittled down to nothing. I treasured that pocket knife, and I took it everywhere with me, showing it off to my friends, showing them how I could cut string, carve bits of wood etc. As I got just a little older, maybe six or seven, my grandfather let me buy a sheath knife. Obviously he had to go into the shop with me… but back then I wasn’t seen as a budding terrorist, or a kid with a problem, no, just a small boy who wanted to be just like his grandfather (he was the kind of man who always carried a pocket knife and a piece of string…).
It got to the point that every year when we had our annual seaside holiday, I would undoubtedly take my granddad for a stroll around the seaside shops looking to buy my next “best” knife. The types of shop were varied, some were paper shops (newsagents as they are known now), some were joke shops, curiosity shops, second hand shops etc. We didn’t have “Rambo” knives back then, or anything that purported to be used to fight with, but just a decent selection of knives ranging from small single blade folders, up to the Bowie style sheath (camping) knives.

The funny thing is that I never remember being looked at strangely when I went in to buy any of the above, and I certainly don’t remember a list of rules regarding length of blade, type of opener, name of knife etc etc etc… As I grew older my interest in knives stayed with me, and my collection grew. I collected for different reasons, sometimes for the usefulness of a particular knife, sometimes for the beauty, maybe it had real horn slab grips, or mother of pearl… just inexpensive little things, but which meant so much to me. It was more about the sharing of an interest with my granddad, and trying to be like him.

We are in a different age now, knife collectors are often viewed as oddballs, or worse, by people who have little or no interest in why we would want to make or collect such things. If a grandparent took a five year old into a shop to buy him a pocket knife, the media would have a field day… as for letting the same small boy whittle away a piece of wood with his own pocket knife (even though mine never got really sharpened, and it had a rounded tip!), well, I dread to think how many charges could be laid down!!??
Instead we see the same boy settled down in front of a TV screen, either watching mindless drivel, or even worse, getting sucked into some computer game where the lines of reality and fiction are often not clear. Lifelike characters smashed, knifed, shot or torn apart, blood splattered corpses… you get the idea.

Our world is a violent place, and it is of our own making. We do our best to avoid harm, and we try to protect our loved ones from the same. However, we cannot take away everything around us which maybe used as a weapon, This would be impractical, nay, impossible. It would only serve to obstruct ordinary folk in the day to day activities of their lives. A boy scout, camper, rancher or similar, should not have to worry about the legalities of carrying a sheathed knife about his person, or the length of the blade. A collector should not have to justify having a particular style or type of knife in his collection, and countless hours should not given over to deciding if a particular folder is legal, because the blade became a little loose, and swung out more freely than it should have done……….. how pathetic, how pointless and how immaterial these arguments are. We need to address the problem at root, find out why there are so many would be killers, find out why we have gang culture, and near urban warfare. We should spend more time nurturing our youngsters, giving them positive joyful experiences, help them to identify right from wrong, reality from fiction, and reward their efforts when they get it right. It is as a youngster you are most impressionable, most vulnerable, most susceptible… this is the time when you should be sheltered from harm, and taught right from wrong. It is far too late if you leave it till he becomes and adult, then try to run around taking all sharp pointy objects away from him!!! Pointless and impossible.
 
I certainly don’t remember a list of rules regarding length of blade, type of opener, name of knife etc etc etc…

We are in a different age now, knife collectors are often viewed as oddballs, or worse, by people who have little or no interest in why we would want to make or collect such things.

The first limits I'm aware of were introduced in 1959, and limited carry to a 4" inch folding blade, which could be lockable IIRC.
Fixed blades I'm not aware of what occurred to, but believe something was added regarding them.
Around 1988/89 saw the end of pocket knives effectively in Britain with the so called "offensive weapons act".
Virtually everything slightly exotic was added, and far more than knives. It limited us to sub-3" inch blades, but made no provision for whether they were lockable or not.

Some land mark court case then occurred apparently which changed this to non-locking only.
Downhill ever since, and getting worse.

I'm very big on shooting myself too, and visit the range once or twice a week. When you're questioned about what hobbies you partake in it's akin to announcing you have been convicted of paedophilia.
The saddest part is you really begin to realise how isolating it is these days in England. If you aren't a fan of main stream music or binge drinking, society is rather alienated as you have nothing in common with the general populace.

Ho-humn. Good post BTW.
 
I'm very big on shooting myself too, and visit the range once or twice a week. When you're questioned about what hobbies you partake in it's akin to announcing you have been convicted of paedophilia.
The saddest part is you really begin to realise how isolating it is these days in England. If you aren't a fan of main stream music or binge drinking, society is rather alienated as you have nothing in common with the general populace.

Ho-humn. Good post BTW.

... you got it in one. The saddest part for me personally is that I felt I had to move away from a country that I called home. All I have left now of my Granddad is good memories, his campaign medals and a watch that he had throughout the time he served fighting in WW11, and which he gave me a few years before he passed away. When I think what became of the country he fought for, and the fact that I felt so let down and despondent to the point where I could no longer live there, I feel both ashamed and angry.

People made to feel like criminals, and criminals who often seem to have more rights than law abiding folk, unjust laws, PC this PC that, you just don't know what you are suppose to say or do anymore less you offend, upset, or find yourself in bother...
I know this sounds like a rant, but I don't care... it has got to the point where I say nuts to the lot of 'em. I have a basic understanding of whats right and whats not, and thats what I live by now. Do no harm to no-one, and make sure no-one does harm to you or your family. Thats it in a nutshell. If I want to make/collect/talk about anything,whether it is a knife, gun, pea-shooter, empty pop bottles...whatever, I will bloody well do it.
 
You have an awsome attitude about it, Brit Guy. Its too bad more people in the UK don't realize or care what their country has become. I shudder to think what I'll do if the US ever goes down that path. I'd be lost. We're heading in that direction, when it comes to caving into the whims of the PC crowd. We've gained a ton of ground with firearm rights in the last 20 or so years, but even that is only one election away from being taken from us. I know from looking at history, once gun ownership becomes outlawed, many other personal liberties follow. That's why the 2nd Amendment is considered by many to be the "right that secures all the rest." I can't imagine what it must be like, seeing your home country in the shape its in today, knowing that your Grandfather fought against tyranny not unlike that in the UK today.

Sorry about the random thoughts. I guess I was just musing on how close we are in my country to losing everything, especially considering that a lot rests on the outcome of the November elections.
 
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and I certainly don’t remember a list of rules regarding length of blade, type of opener, name of knife etc etc etc…
Interestingly, restrictive knife laws have existed in the United States for over a hundred years. You can't be that old. ;)
 
... I can't imagine what it must be like, seeing your home country in the shape its in today, knowing that your Grandfather fought against tyranny not unlike that in the UK today.

Sorry about the random thoughts. I guess I was just musing on how close we are in my country to losing everything, especially considering that a lot rests on the outcome of the November elections.

Well, being 63 years old, I can recall a time not unlike Brit Guy's memories.
I've carried a knife since age ~10, all thru elementary and junior high school.Try that nowadays!
As I've posted here before, in ~1958 we had a Jr.High study on WWII and several kids brought their dad's souvenir Japanese rifles to class, along with bayonets, KaBar Marine fighters, belted machine gun ammo. Try that nowadays!
Times have changed here in the US, and not for the better, in terms of weapons tolerance.
We are on the road...

’’It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking Thirteen..." George Orwell, "1984".
 
Brit Guy,
What are the knife laws in NZ ??

Do you know something, call me irresponsible, but I really don’t know! I do know that Auto’s are out, but other than that I have seen folk out and about with all sorts of knives here. There seems to be a much more common sense attitude, well at least where we are (well out of the city). For example we were at a charity Hog Hunt weigh-in a few weeks ago. It was held at a pull in just off the main state highway… there were guys and gals walkin around, some with belted sheath knives, many had guns in their trucks, and to top it all the prizes included a 308 hunting rifle for the heaviest hog, and a slug gun for the junior prize, which was handed over to a kid who looked all of 10 years old!!!
Now I tell you what, this could never happen in the UK…. Firstly, there would be a massive outcry and protest against the hog hunt, so it would never get off the ground, secondly, even if it did, you wouldn’t get to see them hanging up at the side of the road and a family day outing as the result, thirdly, you wouldn’t get folks walking around carrying knives openly….. as for the prizes… need I say more!!!!

Now don’t get me wrong, if you walked into the city tooled up, you would surely be arrested, and rightly so. But my point being, they do seem to have a much better attitude, to knives and guns, a more common sense approach that is here in NZ.
This won’t last forever I’m sure, as there are many who would deprive us of these basic things, and turn us into tree hugging numpties, but for now at least we still have a chance.
 
Interestingly, restrictive knife laws have existed in the United States for over a hundred years. You can't be that old. ;)

Hahaha.... no, just feel like it some days! But I was talking about the UK, however, yes I know there were restrictions (now I know), but as I said, I didn't remember knowing about them back then, because they weren't such a big issue as they are now, I mean people weren't quite as anal about such things! I think it was more a case of a copper who stopped a thug would nick him if he had a knife of any kind, but to think about nicking someone because they had a penknife (or even a kid wearing a sheath knife), well it just didn't happen!
 
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