GOLDENSTONE?

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Yes I've had a thread on the GOLDENSTONE before but in the past I never got much response about it. I'm hoping that by now some of you guys might have gotten a GOLDENSTONE for your sharpening gear. I've been using my GOLDENSTONE a lot lately especially for most of my kitchen knives ( SE & PE). I'm really starting to like it a lot as a kitchen knife sharpening tool because it is quick and handy.

My biggest wish is that Spyderco will soon start making it in other grit selections because as of now they are only available in "FINE" grit. Also I've heard that Spyderco is about to release the base unit for the GOLDENSTONE so you can use it at other angles. Personally I think this sharpening tool has a lot of potential and I hope they pursue more selections of it soon.

How many of you guys own and use one? Also do you all agree with me that they need more grit selections to make this sharpening tool a much better option? Also are there any of you all that got the old DUCKFOOT which was the diamond version of the GOLDENSTONE? I'm hoping that more of you have gotten one by now.
 
So I take it that not one person here at BF owns or uses a Spyderco GOLDENSTONE sharpening tool? With as many members as there are on this forum I find that kind of difficult to believe. Well in that case we could chat about a broad range of Spyderco sharpening tools like the 701 Profiles for instance or even the 204 Sharpmaker. But I'm still having a hard time believing that no one here owns or uses a GOLDENSTONE:confused:
 
I'm seriously considering adding one to my order, so I should have one shortly after the native 5 salt drops. Its good to know you are getting some good use out it. I was not going to really bother with it, but I've got a couple of serrated blades now, and not much good to touch them up. In terms of a field sharpener, would the advantages be worth it, or is it heavy enough that one would want to be carrying a small flat stone instead? I have the small spydie fine, 1x4inch or so.
 
I have one. It's an EDC alternating with a Double stuff. Always in my work bag
 
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Sorry OP. I don’t own one but once I figured out how it was in intended for use, I’ve wanted one ever sense.

Seems like it would be a great field sharpener.
 
So is the duck foot better than carrying a double stuff or the sharpmaker brown and white around? It's only 1 grit. With two grits you can (re)move more material more easily on the lower grit but then bring it up to a great work surface after doing that with the higher grit. I think that's generally a better idea, not that the duck foot isn't a neat gimmick in keeping a perfect angle in a compact design.

That being said Maxamet is the best steel in the world. It responds to ceramics much better than high vanadium carbides and can perform at the same level.
 
I’m waiting for a CBN or diamond version to be released before I pick one up (the Byrd diamond duckfoot seems a bit too fine, not to mention hard to find). Eventually I’d like to pair it with the Spyderco Double Stuff I just received and replace my Fallkniven DC4. Seems to me the two would make for a heck of a travel/camp setup.
 
Fixall said:
I’m waiting for a CBN or diamond version to be released before I pick one up (the Byrd diamond duckfoot seems a bit too fine, not to mention hard to find). Eventually I’d like to pair it with the Spyderco Double Stuff I just received and replace my Fallkniven DC4. Seems to me the two would make for a heck of a travel/camp setup.
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Why did Byrd get the diamond one? Diamond is cheaper/cruder/for crummier steel?
 
MyLegsAreOk said:
Why did Byrd get the diamond one? Diamond is cheaper/cruder/for crummier steel?
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No idea why the Duckfoot was sold under the Byrd name instead of Spyderco. Diamond is not a cheap abrasive whatsoever and is usually used for taking off large amounts of steel for setting a new blade profile or for working with harder steels.

I found a thread from back in 2009 where @Sal Glesser talked about rebadging the Duckfoot under the Spyderco name and selling it with the Goldenstone as a set. There was also talk back in 2017 of a CBN Goldenstone being released... And I just found a post from Sal last month, stating that he was waiting for the CBN counterpart of the Goldenstone to arrive before he made a "how to" video. With any luck maybe we'll see that CBN Goldenstone in the near future. :) From what I understand, the tooling/manufacturing process for abrasives has just recently gotten to the point where this is possible/cost effective.
 
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Ya I know what diamond does, I just am puzzled why it's badged with the much cheaper brand. I have the CBN rods and I don't see the point if having CBN to be honest since Diamond does the same thing with taking off lots of material. Yet in industrial practices CBN doesn't loose function at extreme heat seeing that it lacks carbon atoms.
 
I think the Duckfoot was branded Byrd because of where they made it. It is pretty fine by diamond hone standards, so it doesn't really hog off steel. It makes a pretty decent sharpener for serrations, but that's about all I ever use it for. It and the Goldenstone are a bit wide to be comfortably pocketable and I don't carry a purse, so neither sees much use.
 
I have a golden stone, but to be honest, don’t really use it. I sharpen most of my knives to 15 degrees per side, and the golden stone is fixed at 20. I’ve heard about the base that is supposed to let you use different angles, but as far as I can tell it’s vaporware.

That said, I think the stone would make a great tool to take out on the field, or when traveling if needed.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Gauntlet...are we there yet?
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That's a question I also want an answer to. We've been promised the GAUNTLET sharpening system for almost 2 years now but for some reason that Spyderco won't share with us they are having trouble getting it to the marketplace. I've heard rumors of manufacturing problems and I've heard rumors of distribution problems and I have no idea what the real reason is. I just know I want to get a GAUNTLET as soon as it's released.

I'm also looking forward to the second generation GALLEY V shapening kit. I very fortunately got one of the first generation GALLEY V sharpening kits and it's a good tool for fixed blade knives and kitchen knives especially. The Cat's Eye shaped stones that come with that kit are extremely handy for Reverse S blades and it's the one tool I use the most to keep my Spyderco Dodo model sharp. I also wish they would make that tool available in other grit selections as I stated about the GOLDENSTONE in my opening post.

You guys have some great feedback and please continue and I would sure like for the General ( Sal Glesser) to chime in and hopefully give us an update on the status of all these new sharpening tools coming down the product pipeline.
 
yablanowitz said:
I think the Duckfoot was branded Byrd because of where they made it. It is pretty fine by diamond hone standards, so it doesn't really hog off steel. It makes a pretty decent sharpener for serrations, but that's about all I ever use it for. It and the Goldenstone are a bit wide to be comfortably pocketable and I don't carry a purse, so neither sees much use.
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I have a Victorinox Fanny Pack that I've been carrying my sharpening gear in lately and it is really handy for carrying the hardware I need to work with during the day. I'm kind of surprised to hear you say that YAB because I thought at one time I remembered you saying you liked the DUCKFOOT a few years back but I may have you confused with one of the other guys over at the main Spyderco Forum. I do think that Spyderco really needs to provide the GOLDENSTONE in a wider grit selection and if they did that I'm quite sure it would propel sales to a higher level. I'm also anxious for that GOLDENSTONE base unit to get released soon.

As much as Spyderco really seemed to be proud of that tool when it finally got released it really confuses me as to why you don't hear them say much about it in the past 3 to 4 years or so. I also very much hope that Spyderco brings back the 701 Profiles and makes them in a wider grit selection. Most people who haven't ever used any of Spyderco's great sharpening tools have no idea how great these tools are. I'm also looking forward to this video that Sal kind of promised us a while back. I hope more of you who own and use the GOLDENSTONE will chime in.
 
I do like the Duckfoot, I just don't have a lot of use for it. I prefer a fairly coarse edge on my serrations, so the Goldenstone sees almost no use at all.
 
yablanowitz said:
I do like the Duckfoot, I just don't have a lot of use for it. I prefer a fairly coarse edge on my serrations, so the Goldenstone sees almost no use at all.
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I still say that if Spyderco would take that concept of the GOLDENSTONE and made it with at least 5 or 6 grit selections and get that base unit out that they have been promising us it would be a completely different ball game. Because the GS has the potential of being a great portable sharpening system if they was to play their marketing cards right. Until I kind of got the hang of it I didn't use it all that much I will admit but once I took it with me to a food event my church had and all I had to sharpen stuff with was the GOLDENSTONE and my 701 Profiles. Well needless to say I learned quick as to how to get that tool to work on a wide array of different kitchen type knives and I've been using it almost exclusively for that sharpening job ever since. So I'm looking very forward to the base unit and any other tool that I can use in the field.
 
If you're going to lug around several Goldenstones in different grits and a special base that you have to set down on a flat surface to use, why not just pack around a SharpMaker?

I carry a pair of DMT Diafolds in my back pocket that take up less room than the Duckfoot and offer a variety of grits to handle a range of sharpening chores. The Goldenstone is just too bulky to suit me.
 
yablanowitz said:
If you're going to lug around several Goldenstones in different grits and a special base that you have to set down on a flat surface to use, why not just pack around a SharpMaker?

I carry a pair of DMT Diafolds in my back pocket that take up less room than the Duckfoot and offer a variety of grits to handle a range of sharpening chores. The Goldenstone is just too bulky to suit me.
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That's a reasonable point to make and I can see why someone can deem the GOLDENSTONE as being a bit on the bulky side. But I'm getting such good results on these kitchen knives where I've been volunteering at that I believe it would take me twice as long to do that with a 204 Sharpmaker. And I own and use 2 sets of 204 Sharpmakers>> I have one where I work at and I keep one at home. But I do believe that there is a lot of potential with the GOLDENSTONE. I'm starting to like it as good as the 701 Profiles for serrated edges which I never thought I would hear myself say.

I would love to set down and chat with Sal as to what inspired him to make the GOLDENSTONE to begin with. Yeah they are a bit bulky but the convenience of using them and the results I'm getting are worth taking a closer look at the tool. Time will tell. Also I can't wait for the GAUNTLET>> who knows it might totally kill my enthusiasm for the GOLDENSTONE from what I've heard about it. I'm also very anxious to try out this second generation GALLEY V sharpening kit that is in their pipeline as well.
 
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