good cheap survival food at your chinese grocer

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I recently went to a local chinese grocer. I was blown away they have got the survival thing down. I am sure it wasn't their intention!

They have this packaged rice cereal that comes 20 individual packets in one large plastic pack ranging from $3.65 to $5.25 depending on flavor. That is .18 - .26 cents per pack.

Basically a fast convient breakfast food. You open one packet and pour it into an 12oz or so coffee mug, then add boiling water. They taste great! They are vitamin enriched. Another added benefit is they are packaged in tough plastic which is more durable than say instant oatmeal.
 
You might also try parching corn and grinding it into a gritty flour/meal. Parched corn flour can also be found online. A few tablespoons either in a glass of water or eaten and then water taken, swells and fills the stomach, has most if not all of the essential nutrients to live a healthy life and can be eaten exclusively over a long period of time (several months) without any detremental effects on the body. We carry it in our survival gear at the house, in our packs and in the vehicle kits.
 
I keep parched corn in my bob too, it really fills you up and you can flavor it with anything
 
Speaking of parched corn, I've used ground parched corn mixed with powdered milk and some sugar to make Atole. I had a recipe posted by the late David Alloway (RIP) at the Hoodlums board a while back. The recipe died with my old hard drive. You boil one part of the mixture in 2 parts water until you have a thick drink.
I think 3 parts parched masa to 1 part powdered milk and sugar to taste would do it. Great for breakfast when camping.

diablero
 
diablero, sounds great, gonna give it a try. Will probably use raw honey instead of sugar though.
 
to anyone wanting to know how to parch corn



Field Corn, 1 ear dried, or sweet corn, 1 cup (225 ml) dried
Butter, 2 tbsp
Salt
Skillet, 10 inch


Preparation

If you are using field corn, shell it and remove chaff by tossing handfuls back and forth; do not wash!
Heat butter in skillet over high heat
Cover the pan with kernels, reduce heat slightly, and stir constantly as kernels brown, puff up, and crackle. Cook 3-5 minutes.
Remove from heat, salt to taste, and serve.
 
Thanks for the instructions. I wanted to add that you need to be careful how much you consume. Just a couple or three tablespoons full will do it. Eat too much and when it swells in yer belly, it can cause some discomfort or eat a whole lot and you're in trouble from what I've been told.

I found this online as well, so I'll share it with ya. I've inserted some of my thoughts in (....).

In the 18th Century Parched Corn was one of the most important trail foods. (It actually goes back several thousand years to when the Indians first started cultivating corn) Parched Corn is listed in many of the sources used here at HistoricalTrekking.com for research. It was made by first hanging the fresh corn cobs in the top of your cabin until they thoroughly dried, and then a small amount put in a skillet or spider with some bacon. The bacon grease would keep the corn from sticking and the heat would make the small kernels of dried corn swell up and turn brown. Parched Corn is the swollen and browned kernels. Parched Corn is a lot easier to digest than dried corn, and it's not as hard on your teeth either. If you can't get fresh corn on the cob or don't want to because of the price, and don't want to explain to your family why you have corn hanging from the ceiling, then just go buy frozen whole kernel corn at the grocery store. If you have a dehydrator that will simplify drying the corn, but if not you can spread the corn out on cookie tins and set your oven to 150 degrees and leave the door cracked an inch or so. It will take eight (8) hours or more to dry, just be sure to check on it every thirty minutes or so. (I'd like to add that if you hurry the drying process or use frozen product, that you could be losing some of the nutrients in the corn. The Indians sun dried the corn, knowing that the sun brings all the good stuff to it's peak.) Once you get it fully dehydrated, then it's time to get out your favorite skillet and oil or grease. Almost any kind of oil or grease works, just heat the skillet on a low heat and oil the skillet. Once the skillet has gotten hot take a rag (or paper towel) and spread the oil around wiping up all but just a thin coat. If you go modern, PAM spray works very good for this. Then you should pour a little of the dried corn, you should have not quite enough corn to coat the bottom of the skillet. You have to constantly stir the corn around so it won't burn. It takes less than a minute to parch the corn. When swells up and turns a light to medium brown colour, it is ready. (Me again, if it fully pops, you went just a tad too far. There seems to be some confusion as to what constitutes parched. Many think that parched is actually popped corn and that isn't quite true accoring to some Indian friends of mine) Dump the corn out onto a plate that has some cloth (or some paper towels) on it to soak up any of the oil/grease that might be left on the corn, then re-oil your skillet and do some more. If you are doing it right it will take several skillets full to make a weekend's ration but you won't end up burning any of it. (Once the corn is parched and cooled, grind the kernels into a gritty flour and place into a container that won't sweat. A poke pouch works great for carrying in the field as long as you can keep it dry) I like to use sweet corn when I makes mine, and I don't add anything to the corn, but you could add in your favorite nuts, (dried buffalo or favorite meat), dried fruits or berries, or even some sugar to make your daily ration more interesting. (Adding the dried meat, especially buffalo, will help boost the protein and add to some of the essential fats and fatty acids)
 
How far from parched corn is corn flour? Just wondering... Those quick mixes for corn bread sure are tasty... it'd give me another reason to stock some more :D
 
Could you toast corn meal? When making gravy I like to toast a little regular white flower in a fry pan and use it for thickening. It does not thicken the stock as much as regular flour, but it gives it a little bit of a nice nutty flavor. Could you toast corn meal and use it in place of ground parched corn?

I'll try to remember to try it. I'll also have to think where I could use it for regular meals.
 
I got to thinking about recommending the parched corn when I have only just started to make and use it, so I contacted an online source for corn flour/meal and they carry parched corn. Here is what they had to say about it and the longevity of parched corn flour as compared to other flours.

Hi there,

Well, we do carry parched corn. I don't know how well it will grind as the parching uses a small amount of oil. I think I understand what you are trying to make as I've seen it mentioned in the history of parched corn. I would think that this corn will grind but I'm not sure what the oil content is. One of the old methods for parching by the Indians call for stirring the corn into very hot sand and then separating the kernels from the sand. This would yield a much drier corn and perhaps more suited to grinding. We have never seen a source for the flour or meal. I would think it would have a short shelf life and go rancid in a relatively short time compared to some
flours.

Hope this helps some.

Bill & Linda Barry
http://www.barryfarm.com

I would tend to agree that if an oil is used, that the corn flour could go rancid in a relatively short time as compared to other flours. We used pam to parch our corn, so I'll keep an eye on it and see just exactly how long it lasts before spoilage.
 
Great thread! Some good information here. Thanks.:)

slightly off topic, I was with the wife grocery shopping, when she stopped the cart and picked up something and said those magical words...

"This looks like it would go good in your survival bag."

It was a small jar of instant brown gravy, the kind you mix with water. Her reasoning was it might make something you wouldn't ordinarily eat taste better.

It might or might not, but it was cool to see her looking at things in that light, not just as food, but as something that may make a dificult survival situation better.
 
To wrench the thread back temporarily to the beginning, look in the snacks section of the Chinese supermarket and you will find other interesting items: plastic packets of dried pork floss, dried squid and cuttlefish strips, Vietnamese curried beef jerky. Apart from the fact that these really do make great snacks and are inexpensive, they add a nice touch to cereals, don't need a rigid container and don't take up much volume.
 
Yep, once chrisaloia brought up the chinese store, I knew that I was goin to have to spend some time in one looking around. Can't eat much rice for reasons other than taste, but know that they have a huge selection of dried foods.

That gravy will definitely help with some of the more questionable dishes, lol. However, if it's a glass container, you might replace that with an air tight plastic container of some kind.

I like to carry salt, pepper, cayenne, garlic and dehydrated onion with me. It doesn't take up much room and sure does help with improving flavor some. I also carry a couple of the Ramen chicken flavored noodle dishes. They can be broken up and used over several days to help flavor other dishes like treerat stew or grub surprise.
:D
 
My glass containers are kept to a minimum...Potable Aqua....
Tabasco....Regular and Garlic....:D

I also carry one of those multi-spice shakers in my kit.

I don't know of any Chinese stores around my area, but I will keep my eyes open.
 
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Originally posted by hollowdweller:
Anybody know of a good online source for dried fish??

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What species of fish and what form (whole, chunked, shredded, etc) are you looking for?

The reason I bring it up is that a Google search finds lots of Mexican and Oriental vendors that show dried fish as a spice. I suspect these are vendors of shredded dried fish like Japanese dashi powder which is used to make broth for oriental soups. I do know that Japanese and Korean grocery stores will often carry both dried mackeral and squid, plus some dried fish species I don't recognize at all, which may be a good thing. ;) Now to find an online oriental grocery store for you....

Here are links that may serve as a start.

http://www.ethnicgrocer.com

http://www.midorimart.com

"ANAsuper is a site co-operated by All Nippon Airways (ANA). They are
online Japanese grocery store. They are pricey (especially shipping
and handling), but they do ship 48 continental states. I think
Japanese expats in remote areas would pay for this premium service.
Just click on English link at the top, if you get the page in
Japanese and if you don't read Japanese."

http://anasuper.com/

(edited to add) Hollowdweller, if you're looking for something I can find in the numerous oriental grocery stores in the Seattle metro area, I'll get them to you for the cost of buying and shipping them. Fair enough??
 
Yes, you can find almost anything you want at a Chinese grocery shop. But all that instant stuff can be quite intimidating after a while. So if you are really hungry or out there in the sticks, these instant goodies will taste great!

But don't forget to pack some of the quality stuff, too. :)
 
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