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I am considering putting together a touch mark, or makers mark registry online.

It's a project I've been considering for quite a while, but I firmly believe that the sooner you start a project, the longer you have to procrastinate. :)

Here's how it would work:

A sub directory on my website would become dedicated to a page, or group of pages that would be filled with quality photographs of touchmarks applied to steel, it would have a large (640x480) image that would be accessable through a thumbnail and would have the makers information listed, such as name, address, company name, web site (if applicable) and any other relevant information (like the years the touch mark was used, or the year it started being used, for those of us who have used multiple touch marks) Etc.

The cost:

$0.00

Okay, not exactly but close, in order to get your touch mark registered you would need to cut a piece of 1" x 0.25" steel 1.25" long, sand, or grind all surfaces shiny, (something above 320 grit would be best for contrast) and place your mark on it, (punch, touch or etch) then oil it, stick it in a ziplock and mail it to me along with all of the pertinent information stated above. I would take it from there, photograph it, and post the photos and info on the site, then re-oil the steel card and lock it in a safe with the pertinent info. so really the cost is about $0.93 for steel and first class postage :)

Why do I need you to send a piece of steel with the mark?

Several reasons really, read below under benefits to you some of the reasons, but one of the other big ones is consistency, I will have everything profesionally photographed, (my best friend and a blacksmith as well) and it will allow all the marks to be viewed in relation to one another as far as size, depth and clarity.

Why would I do this?:

In reality, this is just an extension of a project that was taken on by the guild I was involved with before they went under, (B.I.G.) I feel that it is a worthy cause, and I'd be glad to do what I can. They where only using hard copy for their registry anyways, so I'll see what info I can retrieve.

The benifits to you:

Well, it would provide a permanent (or at least as permanent as the internet can be) registry for folks to determine who's mark it is on their favorite knife, or to settle disputes with someone using a mark that is similar to, or the same as, yours. As the date(s) regitered would be available as well. By keeping the steel card in the safe, if ever there is a problem with infringement etc., I can send the card and information along to whatever authorities would be appropriate.

What I need to know from you guys, is:

Would you participate if I where to do this?

Please let me know

Tony

P.S. I had my touch mark stolen once, along with a box of fancy tools I'd made myself, (my damascus hammer for one :( ) and about 6 years later I found some poorly forged Ironwork with my mark on it, being sold as antique!
 
Sounds good to me. I hadn't decided on a mark yet but this could be that kick in the ass I need to do it.

Larry
 
Sounds good to me also. Right now I just use my initals "SG" as my mark but may change sometime in the future. What if a maker changes his mark? Could we update the change by sending another piece of steel? What would be your take on this? Thanks

Scott
 
Isn't there already a touchmark registry on Anvilfire? In any case, I think a highly-organized registry is much-needed, and I woudl participate. Yes indeed.
 
Razorback - Knives said:
Sounds good to me also. Right now I just use my initals "SG" as my mark but may change sometime in the future. What if a maker changes his mark? Could we update the change by sending another piece of steel? What would be your take on this? Thanks

Scott

Absolutely, and both marks (or 3 or 4 or20 or whatever) would remain online and visible along with dates of use.

Tony
 
jhiggins said:
Isn't there already a touchmark registry on Anvilfire? In any case, I think a highly-organized registry is much-needed, and I woudl participate. Yes indeed.

Yes, anvilfire has a registry, however there is a cost for putting your mark there, and I feel that this keeps a number of people from registering.

Also, their registry has been online since '99 and has only 24 entries, with the most recent entry being simple line drawings, and hasn't been updated since 2003.

This isn't meant to "compete" with their registry, as they focus on blacksmith's touchmarks exclusivly, but instead, the registry would be open for any craftsmen who wish to participate. (I imagine it will be mostly knife makers and blacksmiths though)


Tony
 
I have received a good response online and offline, so I will start working on the registry this evening.

If you would like to be included please Email me, and I will send you the address to send the steel 'card' to.

Tony

Tony@ysforge.com
 
robert washburn said:
Afellow blacksmith friend of mine startedone about 10 yrs. ago.But I`ll be interested. Thanks Robert

Robert, what's his name? Any chance that he was part of B.I.G.? I know that their registry was started about that time, (before I joined) but since they are now defunct, I figured I'd kinda start over.

Tony
 
Yes...a great idea.


I'll add some thoughts:


Needs to be very "searchable" and in a user-friendly way.

The description should be in text (not on the photo) to help in the search feature.

You would also need to add a small description of the mark.


Example: (picking on Brian Goode)

- Brian Goode
- (picture of mark)
- Bladesmith
- Description of mark: First initial "B", Last name "Goode", Feather, NC - for North Carolina.
- Description of Brian's work (optional)


Then, if somebody sees a knife with a feather on it and some worn out letters...they can type in "feather" into the search feature and find everybody with a feather in their mark....then compare the pics.

Make sense?




Otherwise you would have to browse them all....which is very time-consuming.




[edited to add]

This is not necessarily a difficult thing to do. Google makes a free site-search-engine you can put on your website. Several others do too....even better if you know code, of course. ;)
 
Thanks daniel, Thats a great idea, I am planing to add a search function, but I'll wait until I have a dozen or so to implement it. Just so that it will give me a little more time to develop the search feature.

The sub directory is built now, and there will be at least one touch mark on there tomorrow (mine) and then I'll link to it, and provide the information on submition on that page.

Tony
 
I think this is a great idea. I'll get in touch with you later about participating. Have to think about what I can put my mark on since I carve it into filework :D
 
Matt, you can just cut it on the edge of the same size card (I assume it will fit?) I'm trying to keep all the examples as uniform as possible, but a big reason is for ease of organization (something that has proven a bit challenging to me in the past :) )

Tony
 
Yeah, I'll just have to pin some wood on too. It shows up better when its framed in with something :cool:
 
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