Good news in Canada .

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Our Prime Minister is in the process of abolishing our gun registration . I never did register mine even with the amnesty/grace period given to us . I just felt it would lead to no good . Canadian tire which is kinda like a Western Auto has started selling firearms again . I don,t know if Wal-mart has followed suit . I,ll have to check it out .
 
That's good news Kevin, can't nobody convince me that silly gun law after silly gun law has had any effect on abating crime. If criminals cared about laws they wouldn't be criminals would they?

Sarge
 
Support for the long-gun registry came from unlikely places. Canada's Police Chiefs association doesn't want the long gun registry lost. However incomplete the information it holds, they maintain that their officers are safer when they go to a domestic dispute incident and KNOW that there are guns in the house, than when they go to a similar incident and simply ACT like there might be.

That said, the whole question has pitted rural vs. urban. It's been a big deal.

t.
 
Tom, that's not an unlikely source. In the US, Cop brass usually supports more gun control with the rank and file being historically against. I'm not sure the 'rank and file' is as pro second amendment as they used to be.


munk
 
..................................................... And thats how I feel about gun control.

Good for you guys Kevin. Well said Sarge.
 
If you look at it from the polices view knowing if a firearm is in the house during an out of hand domestic abuse or worse could save lives . It is the abuse of that system that gives me pause .

Having stores shut down firearms departments , raising prices and further isolation of sport shooters and hunters just has that old exponential effect .
The good thing is barring a major catastrophy the Government would have a hard time implementing this law again .
 
Kevin, there are a lot of things that might save lives that I'm none the less unwilling to see implemented because .....with freedom comes responsibility.

What was the final cost of the registration quagmire, anyway?


munk
 
munk said:
Tom, that's not an unlikely source. In the US, Cop brass usually supports more gun control with the rank and file being historically against. I'm not sure the 'rank and file' is as pro second amendment as they used to be.
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They aren't. Most of the cops I have talked to in the last two years will admit (granted, often after a "few") that they would like it better if they were the only ones with guns.

The Second Amendment is something they value when they stop to think about it, I am sure, but the gun bearing portion of the populace is a constant check on their duties.

I mean, according to our supreme court, LEOs should have the right to kick in doors without any fear of being shot by citizens.

Right?
 
The cops you and I stop to talk to aren't enough for statistical accuracy, but it's my impression too.

At the lobbying of the Highway Patrol in Ca., 40 years ago, bullets were removed from 'plain sight' weapons in civvy hands: to make it safer for the HP, of course. Carjacking blossomed in Ca.


munk
 
munk said:
At the lobbying of the Highway Patrol in Ca., 40 years ago, bullets were removed from 'plain sight' weapons in civvy hands: to make it safer for the HP, of course. Carjacking blossomed in Ca.
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Hrumph. Like Norm's siggy says...

That's all the threadjacking I am going to do today.

Sorry.
 
Munk its hard to dispute what I know to be correct . It is not firearms per-se . It is the sickness within some people that would allow them to use a firearm in a situation that did not demand it . I,ve been in a peace officers custody several times in my travels . Big bearded bikers often times do not get preferential treatment . I have spoken with numerous rank and file from seargeant on down .at the gun range where I worked . Most are just guys who happen to be peace officers . Even with their thin blue line approach there is understanding of the common man . Lets face it they get lied to all day long from these same common folks . Nope I wasn,t speeding , nope I just forgot my permit at home . You are hurting me . I haven,t done anything wrong . You are mistaken . I was sure the light hadn,t changed . This is just the lies they hear from ordinairy relatively honest citizens . The whoppers criminals tell them could fill volumes .

These same police officers have to go into homes and listen to , no there are no firearms here , no there are no more firearms here and no its not loaded , no I haven,t been drinking and wifey just fell down .

I respect the fact they would like to know beforehand what is what .
What you say makes sense as well . With freedom comes responsibility and taking away freedoms doesn,t solve anything (in the long run .) Its a tough call to make . I confess to being being of two minds about it . (wishy washy)
 
TomFetter said:
Support for the long-gun registry came from unlikely places. Canada's Police Chiefs association doesn't want the long gun registry lost. However incomplete the information it holds, they maintain that their officers are safer when they go to a domestic dispute incident and KNOW that there are guns in the house, than when they go to a similar incident and simply ACT like there might be.

That said, the whole question has pitted rural vs. urban. It's been a big deal.

t.
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Don't need no stinkin' database like that here in Texas; "Reckon them folks will have guns or knives?", "Yup, guns, knives, cast iron skillets, hoe handles, and probably sic the dadburn dog on ya". :D :)

Sarge
 
Sylvrfalcn said:
Don't need no stinkin' database like that here in Texas; "Reckon them folks will have guns or knives?", "Yup, guns, knives, cast iron skillets, hoe handles, and probably sic the dadburn dog on ya". :D :)
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Isn't that called Mexican Judo? :) ;)
 
Dang Sarge , I,m calling before I come over . L:O:L

I am relieved by the abolishment of the registration. This must be coupled with support of the police force . They must have the teeth to deal with the criminals the registration was supposed to control . We have pulled one of their teeth with the repeal of the law . I do not know what it could be replaced with . Prime Minister Harper seems to have some good ideas . Including a small tax cut . Whatever he is doing he seems to have the strength of his convictions .

There is a certain element missing from modern liberal ideas of justice .
Rehabilitate ? Yes . The punishment must still exceed the crime .

I just don,t need a shotgun near the front door . A nice sharp Khuk is still comforting when midnite callers are more rambunctious than is good for them .
 
munk said:
What was the final cost of the registration quagmire, anyway?


munk
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The government's original forecast in 2002 was that it would cost $2 Million ($1.8 Million USD). The last Auditor General's report estimated that it's cost us Canucks over $1 Billion. I even found a news article from CBC News where thier research indicated that it's closer to $2 Billion! We may never know....

What a deal!!!:eek:
 
.....sounds a lot like a Bridge Construction project on the Eastern Seaboard of the US.

I think Calif still has the 'ballistic fingerprint' program going.... every approved gun has a spent cartridge on file.
That is going to cost. Crooks should like these programs. I bet if you put the criminal mind to work, you could figure out a couple easy ways to change both the lans/grooves marks on the bullet and the primer chamber impression on the case.
Then a felon would not be upset when the 'murder weapon' was found; it would 'prove' his innocence.

... probably too much thread drift.





munk
 
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