Goodbye (Good Ole Days)

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wildbillcody

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It looks like the goood ole days are gone. I recently graduated from towns county highscool in Georgia. What? You've never heard of it? Doesn't suprise me. When I graduated there was barely 1000 students from kindergarted through the 12th grade. I remember when I was little, I use to see trucks in the school parking lot with guns in the rifle racks and it was no big deal.

When I was in the 11th grade I brought in my buddys cd case and put it in the locker that we shared. I got called out of class later that day to the principals office because he wanted to ask me some questions. Not knowingly the cd case I brought in had two 20 guage shotgun shell in it and someone had told one of the teachers. The person who told was someone who was going through the lockers stealing peoples stuff out of them. I know this because a lot of his cd's became "missing."

The principal asked me to empty my pockets onto the desk. So I unloaded a handful of change, a 3.25" pocket knife, and my last three dips of copenhagen on to the desk. He only gave me three days of In School Suspension, but he told me since the knife was over two inches it should be reported and it would be considered a felony. But he was choosing not to do so. Nothing was done about the shells because they were not a "weapon." Because of the shotgun shells and since I was the quarterback of the football team I soon earned the nickname, "Shotgun Shelton."

I should have realized that since the events of school shootings like Collumbine, that I shouldn't have carried a knife. I really didn't think that it applied to me though in my little podunk town. I guess though with the way that kids act today, that one of these events could happen anywhere. It looks like the good ole days truly are gone.
 
Yep, but it's really too bad that people try to say it's the kids who are different today. If they are different, which generation made them different? And is the answer really a bunch of stupid and oppressive laws? :rolleyes:
 
I used to substitute teach here where I live and was always amazed at the shear number of confiscated knives found in teachers drawers. I'd be asked to get something for a student or some other teacher and open the drawers on occasion just to see any number of goodies taken from students under the table never turned in. It seemed at the time that 90% go unreported which I personally felt was good that students were not being labeled as felons or criminals at such an innocent age. Then as I got more into teaching and seeing the goings on I realized in short order that students are not so innocent at all. In fact they are more informed and more educated "street wise" than we ever were. They have access to so much more knowledge base now just because of computers and the internet that one cannot just stand back and let stuff go. I noticed this myself and adopted a fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me attitude that found little room to cover for them after a repeat offense.

They know the rules. Contrary to the innocent look they may give and even the tears they can well up on cue. I noted that even the teachers have to go through metal detectors now so there is little room for error these days.

Like you though I remember the days of yesteryear when my dad or my uncle picked us up at school in the truck with the gun rack in the back window full of rifles and shotguns.

I can remember all through school I carried a pocket knife. No teacher ever had problems with it then and in fact I distinctly remember times when teachers knew me that knew I carried a knife asked me to borrow it, sometimes during a class. Of course I went to school in a very small country town in WV where the entire school closed down for opening day of deer season too so maybe we were exceptional even back then.

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I went to a small country school myself and we would keep our guns in our trucks and go hunt after school. Teachers would ask to use our pocket knives and then return them. We were all good country kids so they let us get away with a lot. The school is no longer that way. They country principal ( who I used to hunt with) retired and a city principal who is terrified of guns and knives took over. Now it is zero tolerance. Thank God I graduated before she took over. They were more worried about drugs and alchohol than anything else. All the school shootings sure didnt help the situation. I am glad I am out of school and feel sorry for those that are still there.
 
my brother's finance is from Towns County, Blairsville to be exact.
Do you know the Durbins? seems like everyone knows them lol.
just be careful, I work in autoparts and if I didn't have a knife that was decent my job would have much suck, and it's normal to see knives/guns in this business. When I was delivering (in Woodstock, GA) most of the small shop owners and mechanics carried guns and always had a knife. The old expression "I've got my pants on don't I?" comes to mind.

I went to a private school and graduated in 2000, my best friend actually brought a 20 gauge to school, my dad was picking us up early to go on a hunting trip, and we got permission quietly from the headmaster, an aivd hunter. It was kept in his locker in a trash bag the entire day, no lockers had locks either. I'm not saying that this should be common practice, I think it should be far from it.
I just hope that zero tolerence goes away, that kind of blanket is just stupid, each situation has to be treated differently, zero tolerence is a slippery slope.
 
I carried a pocketknife all through school too without any problems but I graduated from high school in 1980. Interestingly, GA state law says knives with blades under 2" are legal in schools. I guess it's better than nothing.

The best quote I've heard on zero tolerance was, "Good think God isn't zero tolerance or we'd all go to Hell."
 
I graduated from high school in 1999. I carried a fully serreated endura clipt to my pocket all through high school with no harassment. Its a shame those days are gone. stupid people ruin it for everyone.
 
Aristo said:
my brother's finance is from Towns County, Blairsville to be exact.
Do you know the Durbins? seems like everyone knows them lol.
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Well, it looks like we are soon to be cousins because I am kin to everyone here. Just kidding. I don't know the Durbins. But chances are that I have probably stood right next to one of them but didn't know them.
 
yea, I have. I'm pretty sure I played sports against one of them. But I definitely know the name. Always thought about how bad that name would be growing up in school.
 
I went to High School in Colorado in the 80's and I carried a Gerber Guardian with no issues. My buddy carried a pacific cutlery balisong knife (small one) held in the sheath horizonally by a rubberband to the front beltloop of his Levis. No one ever gave us any trouble for them. He worked after school as a stocker and I never flaunted the fact that I had a blade in my boot.

Damn how times have changed.
 
I'm lucky enough that both my jobs are cool with gadgets/knives/etc.
and one involves selling them. I need to see about vendor costs here.

small world wildbill
 
yeah, i graduated before Columbine and carried a knife of some sort to school about every day from Jr. High on, usually a SAK

now kids are getting expelled for butter knives with this Zero Tolerance bs
 
freestyle said:
Yep. I have a two year suspension at my former university for this crap.
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bullshit, i bet you there were guys who got slaps on the wrist for dealing narcotics out of their dorms too. Shows you where the universities priorities rest.

was in school when columbine happened and the changes were very visible. It went from an open atmosphere of learning to a prison overnight. The nice part is for a while the outcast kids stopped getting picked on because everyone was afraid to get shot, but that didn't last very long since they were now picked on by the administration who forced them to submit to interrogation and psych tests. When i was in high school every time there was some isolated incident somewhere in the country, they'd make some meaningless policy change. Schools are like airports now. No more secure than they were 10 years ago with a bunch of all for show security measures that inconvenience everyone and desensitize kids to America's pending police statism.
 
I quite agree. If terrorists had a clue at all, they'd go after the kids here. I can think of nothing more effective at breaking a community than to slaughter its children, and even now it would be a relatively simple and straightforward process. i got to see what effect it had in Baghdad when the BGs targeted kids at school. Does anyone here remember the incident in Chechnya a couple years ago? If it can't be stopped in a community under martial law, what do you really think they could do about it here stateside? For all their effort, the only thing the establishment can do with their silly rules is to make the gen pub that much more helpless.
 
i'm surprised there hasn't been another bomb at a football game or something

i happened to be at one where a student blew himself up outside of one (October 2005, Norman, OK)

there was a lot of controversy about whether or not the white American kid had ties to Islamic extremists, and whether or not he was trying to get inside

the whole thing was pretty surreal, i'm really surprised no one has taken the idea and run with it
 
My school was pretty lax until some seniors decided to slit a goats throat one night, and leave it hanging above the pond. The bad eggs always ruin it for the rest of us.
 
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