Got a Horseman -- a little confused with cutting ability

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augostos

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Hello!

I purchased a mini CQC8 Horseman recently.

Comparing it with a miniCQC7 tanto I previously owned, the Horseman can't cut as easily, or should I say enjoyably.

I could get CQC7 tanto really sharp. But now my sharpening isn't that great with Horseman. Maybe it is because of a blade shape or something else. Perhaps I should try to get some extra steel off from the sides....

I understand that this is a little fuzzy and emotional. But I am looking for an advice here.
 
Was it new when you received it? I've received used knives before that the edge was butchered in a "sharpening" attempt. Required an extensive re-profile in order to get a cutting edge.
 
What are you using to sharpen it? Freehand using bench stones or some type of guided system? In my experience Emersons 154cm sharpens up quickly and easily. Put some black marker on the edge to make sure you are hitting the apex of the edge. If you are, maybe there is a bit of a burr or wire edge that needs to be dealt with.
 
It wasn't new, and it was sharpened before. The edge that I received wasn't very sharp either. And after that I also attempted to sharpen it -- freehand, once with a diamond medium grit sharpener and once with a ceramic rod.

Yep, the edge profile is not very good. The previous sharpener started to remove from the side of the edge that shouldn't be sharpened. So chisel edge is kinda not perfect.

Probably I'm not removing the burr. What confuses me most is that before I used to get the best of my sharpening on Emersons' steels.

Thanks again.

What do you think, should I get a help from a professional knife sharpener that uses some electrical sharpening stone (something similar to http://sharpeningmadeeasy.com/SM111a.JPG ) or it might ruin the heat treat? These guys routinely sharpen kitchen knives and scissors....
 
I would not let those guys sharpen your knife on that,
If you want to go a little further with a standard v grind that should fix it. I would offer to do it or use the services here from wickededgeknives if I recall correctly. Just dont let some body hack it. If you need a hand let me know and I will improve it vastly.
Matt
bellablades@yahoo.com
 
Thanks for an advice BellaBlades. I'll surely consider your offer. The problem is with my location.
 
augostos said:
The problem is with my location.
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Where are you located? If possible, I'd recommend shipping it to Emerson to "reset" the edge to factory spec's. Emerson's modified V grind cuts very well and sharpens easily.

If you are somewhere that shipping to California would be prohibitive, Then you just need to get the bevels correct. I highly recommend learning flat stones. I used to use a Sharpmaker for my 'normal' knives, but found with Emersons that free hand sharpening on a flat stone is the way to go. I even have a Wicked Edge, and have felt no need to use it on my Emersons.
 
I'm in Russia right now. I might ship it, but usually I wait for an occasion. And ship it inside US. Thanks for your suggestion with Emerson sharpening.
 
augostos said:
I'm in Russia right now. I might ship it, but usually I wait for an occasion. And ship it inside US. Thanks for your suggestion with Emerson sharpening.
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Actually, to add onto what I said before.... If you can find a new Emerson, it might help to practice sharpening on that so you can see what it should be like when done properly. Then go back and correct your Horseman.

Either way enjoy, the Horseman is a cool design.
 
The the reason I am a little surprised with my current Horseman. Because I knew original bevels and all of Commander and CQC7 tanto. They were sharp and I could get sharp again and again. The current edge on my Horseman just seems unusual.
 
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