Got my first emerson!!

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I got my first emerson today. a 2000 blackT plain edge commander. I love this knife. the wave is the best thing created for folding knives so far. It has a few problems though. The paint-less screw which holds the blade in place is so loose that it can be turned with my fingernail. I don't know if that is normal, or if that is not good. Also, the blade is not aligned centered in the liners, and it scrapes when you close it. When closed is rests against one of the liners and doesn't touch the other one. I am not dissapointed though, i was expecting to have some of these problems. Can anyone tell me what is the best way to go about sending it in to emerson? ie, how to ship, send money? Are they pretty good about restoring the knife to factory specs? Thanks,
chris
 
No need to send it to EKI. It just needs to be adjusted with some TLC.

Here's what I do to my Emersons when I get them:
I disassemble it and clean it, and lubricate it with the oil of my choice[Militec-1]. If the blade was stiff or rubbing the locking liner, I reduce the tension applied to the blade by the second ball detent leaf spring by pushing on it until the ball barely touches the blade. I then loosely re-assemble the knife, put a drop of Loc-tite on the pivot screw, adjust the liner position, tighten the grip/liner screws, adjust blade tension, wave it a few times if applicable, and then let the Loc-tite set up. Voila!
 
The liner rubbing problem and loose screw are probably related. If you tighten it the problem should go away. If not, then loosen the second ball detent.
 
ok, i got the 3 in one and the loctite teten for screws. could somebody let a newbie know what a 2nd ball detent is? is it the tiny round thing on the liner that scrapes against the tang? and how do i adjust it?
 
The second ball indent is probably a safety measure for tip up carry. It seems all late 2000 and 2001 knives have them. My mini 7 has one and the openning is not as smooth but it does not open when I remove it from my pocket...John Holister can probably help answer this....

John?
 
ok, i dissasembled it, cleaned, oiled, reassembled it. i bent the liner out a bit so it wouldnt go all the way across the tang, and i bent the other thing in. (looks like a mini liner with a little ball on it) its on the opposite side of the blade. Then i re screwed and loctited all the screws. bujt i have a problem, the blade is still rubbign the liner, and the blade now seems to rattle up and down. now i think i may have ****ed somethign up and i dont trust the lock now. some help me before i **** up this knife.
 
ZanteZuken-

At this point, the knife may beyond repair within your skills and experience. Might be best to send it to EKI.

Edited for rule violation and improper comments. My apolgies to ZanteZuken.

-Seth
 
PATIENCE!

ZAN:

Relax my friend, all is not lost yet.;) The beauty of these knives are that they are user maintenance friendly! :cool:

Try this- I had a similar problem with an old SARK. Strip the knife down again, and try to readjust the componants back to their original state. Work the secondary detent (the mini liner with the ball) so that the pressure on the blade is loosened somewhat. Be sure not to loosen it too much because that gives the blade some play when closed.
Reassemble the knife as mentioned by Brigadier, and hold the blade centered while you tighten the pivot screw. That should eliminate your problems. :) (don't forget the loc-tite, although I have never had to use it myself)

Stripping the knife down allows you to get to know your knife a lot better, and gives you an appreciation for the designer and the work he's put into your blade!

I hope this helps- If not, keep trying.

BTW: Don't 'flame' someone until you have a better understanding of what he's about. The 'Suspects' are a great crew! Stick around and get to know some of them and their knives. Then you'll know why EKI blades command such a high price!

;) (Sorry for the long post!)
 
Trader, the secondary detent was added to most, if not all models (not sure on the Raven) in mid 2000. It is indeed an added safety feature.

zantetsuken, try Raye's excellent post and if that's no help, might I suggest you email info@emersonknives.com. I'm sure Derek will be able to help ya' out.

John
 
Ah, and may I ask if the box was uncrushed?

It seems that your knife is:

a) A COPY (the uncrushed box is a dead giveaway).

b) OF INFERIOR QC.

c) JUST A POS ALTOGETHER (designed, produced and shipped in a lousy way).

d) ALL OF THE ABOVE.

If you feel that either a, b, c or d describes your situation I could make you forget your bad purchase. Please send knife to me and I will dispose it in an appropriate way. When I receive this inferior product I will as a token and an excuse for misleading you send a small gift (maybe you saw a cool picture like this: )
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The gift will be my vintage Gerber multitool, slightly used including the hard-to-get pouch with a Gerber logo on (I am told not everyone has this pouch) :D I feel really bad letting this old collectable go but my integrity is just worth more than these earthly possessions *sniff* :(

Have a nice weekend everyone (I´ll be working) and Zan... be cool and just follow the great advice given in the earlier posts. It´s a really nice bunch of people here.

/Colinz
 
i think im just going to do what seth suggested and mail the knife in, i fear if i mess with it anymore, im goign to have a 200 dollar paperweight. Thanks for the responses.
 
Zan:

Don't dispair, this is only a temporary situation. I don't know how long you've been playing with knives, but before 'throwing in the towel', try some self-maintenance. Taking the knife apart won't disqualify the warranty, just be careful. :)

I know you've made a financial investment in your new Commander, and money isn't something most can throw away (I know I can't). Try working it yourself, if all else fails...I'm sure the folks at EKI will fix it to perfection. Trust me, if you fix it yourself, it'll do wonders for your confidence level in your equipment! ;)

Good Luck guy.....:)
 
Don't worry about it seth, i was a bonehead for making comments while being ignorant to the facts. Anyway, I decided that to truly see what I thought of emerson knives, i would go and buy a brand new one. So I drove to a cutlery store 50 miles away and bought a 2000 CQC7 B-BTS. Its is wonderful. No lockup problems, no liner scraping, and really sharp. (actually sharp enough to send me to the ER, ill post on that in community forums later):eek: It is a really solid little knife, I love it. So my verdict is to simply mail in my trusty commander and see what the people at emerson can do with it. Thanks for the responses guys, im learning slowly, but surely.:D
 
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