Gotta say this......

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I know everyone loves the KMG, Rob, and my KMG works great. Yes I could treat it, paint it etc. but I really wish I would have purchased a Bader III.
I had a brother who was ill and only given a 10% chance of living. I spent the most of my free time for the last 10 weeks at the hospital. He is home now and making a slow recovery.
My point is that I walked into my shop after this time and my KMG is covered in rust. I just think for the amount of money paid for the KMG, the base parts should be coated, treated etc. I know, 10 weeks is a long time with no maintenance with any equipment, but I expect more for the cost.
No problem in a state like Arizona where I use to live, but here in Florida or the Eastern US I would recomend the Bader III.
Just need to vent a little steam and this is just my .02 cents worth.
 
Get yourself a can of Kano Laboratories Weatherpruf and spray it on, wipe it and let it dry.

We're here on the Puget Sound literally a couple hundred feet from the water and it's damp ALL the time and we can leave unfinished heads on the shop bench for months with no rust. It doesn't add any color or anything and you can remove it with mineral spirits but it's GREAT on equipment. We use it on all the steel we have. We also use Silikroil on everything instead of WD-40 to wipe down because it leaves a micro-thin coat of silicone on the heads and it won't rust. We use it on all our equipment and on our guns, too.

Paul's dad turned us on to it because he had some old guns stored in his attic for more than 10 years. He had wiped them down with Silikroil when he put them in the gun cases and put them up there. After all that time there wasn't a speck of rust on them. We just wiped them down and used them.

Kano Labs

We buy the Silikroil by the gallon and put it in smaller spray bottles. But they sell aerosol.
 
Satchmo said:
I know everyone loves the KMG, Rob, and my KMG works great. Yes I could treat it, paint it etc. but I really wish I would have purchased a Bader III.
I had a brother who was ill and only given a 10% chance of living. I spent the most of my free time for the last 10 weeks at the hospital. He is home now and making a slow recovery.
My point is that I walked into my shop after this time and my KMG is covered in rust. I just think for the amount of money paid for the KMG, the base parts should be coated, treated etc. I know, 10 weeks is a long time with no maintenance with any equipment, but I expect more for the cost.
No problem in a state like Arizona where I use to live, but here in Florida or the Eastern US I would recomend the Bader III.
Just need to vent a little steam and this is just my .02 cents worth.

Agreed. For that kind of money, they should at least have black oxide on them. Nuff said.
 
I respectfully disagree. It's right up front that the KMG is unfinished. You have the choice of painting it or not. If it was finished, returns and hassles for cosmetic paint blemishes increase Rob's costs. I don't want to pay 20% more for a paint job that I could do in my drive way for 3 bucks...
 
I'd rather spend a couple bucks on paint than a couple hundred dollars extra for the bader.Jmho.
 
Mine is unpainted and I've never had a speck of rust appear unless a drop of water got on it. I run a dehumidifier year round. I like the unfinished look of the KMG. Looks more macho then a shiney painted one. :D
Scott
 
Razorback - Knives said:
Mine is unpainted and I've never had a speck of rust appear unless a drop of water got on it. I run a dehumidifier year round. I like the unfinished look of the KMG. Looks more macho then a shiney painted one. :D Scott
You ordering your next car, truck, the same way? :p
 
Bruce Bump You should have painted it instead of letting it rust. Dont blame Rob.
Today 10:06 AM

Bruce, obviously you did not take the time to read my post. No where did I say that I blamed Rob.

Everyone says it so easy and takes a $3.00 can of paint for me to do, but also say the cost to Rob would be 20% more, and he would have to charge $200 more? Where is the logic in this thinking?
I am a business man and make knives as a hobby. My time is money just like Rob and I am sure as a business man he will be the first to agree with me.
It is, what is, and I blame no one except myself, and as I stated before, I am just venting...so let's just leave it at that.
 
mlovett said:
You ordering your next car, truck, the same way? :p
hehehe you should have seen my 17 year old 290,000 mile Blazer before I had to retire it. :D Besides where I drive my truck the new look wears off real quick.
Scott
 
Rust doesn't bother some. Others don't like it. I painted both my KMGs and they now look super cool and don't rust.

But I bought the KMG because I believed and believe it is a better machine, both all around and for the money. I also think service and innovative new attachments are better. No amount of paint can make up for these factors.

John
 
When mine rusts, I'll have only my own impatience to blame. I had researched the KMG, knew it wasn't painted, and knew that it should be protected if I didn't want rust. I searched out threads on bladeforum to get advice for protection -- but when it got here, I was too impatient and excited to take the time. I put it together and started grinding ASAP .



Actually, I'm moving to the other (larger) end of the basement soon, and will break it down and protect it then. I think I'll try Suzanne's advice, and use the Weatherpruf spray -- I love the look of the bare metal.
 
Yeah I just let mine develop a "patina" When it gets bad, its nothing a sheet of 200 grit paper can't fix. Ive had dreams of painting mine gunmetal grey for a long time....
 
Painted mine and it's looking great. An afternoon, some spray paint and rust is no prob. :cool:

I thought about looking into powdercoating, as I think it would be tougher, but paint is so easy.

I know rust can be frustrating. I've always had the opinion that rust is a sign of neglect. But hey, that's just my personal hangup. It doesn't really cause a problem.

Kelly
 
You might look into Hammerite Rust Cap spray paint. It's sort of like an epoxy based paint that's impregnated with glass fibers and claims to be able to go over rusted surfaces with no surface prep and will stop further rusting. It makes for a nice tough textured finish if you apply it as the directions say to. I didn't wait until my KMGs rusted to paint them and did use Hammerite on mine and the finish has been holding up remarkably well for a spray can type product. Much better than plain old spray paint. It's around $5.00 a can at Home Depot and it takes about two or three cans to really do a KMG right with several coats as recommended in the instructions. When I did mine, I disassembled all teh moving parts, but left the foundational part of the machine still bolted together and it was most of a day between disassembly, painting and reassembly. Be sure to mask off where the tension arm pivots and the pivoting part of the tracking adjustment as the paint will be too thick and cause those joints to bind. Aslo note on reasembly that anywhere that there's a Nylok type nut (those same pivots), it's there for a reason. Don't tighten those nuts down too tight or your tracking and belt tension arm will bind.
 
i think if i had one i would paint it with the textured paint they do kennedy tool boxes with. its very durable, i abused my box as a machinist for 5 years and it still looks good:cool:
 
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