Gravitator overview

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I just wanted to do a brief overview of the Gravitator for people that can't play with one in real life.

The most obvious feature of this knife is it's strange (but beautiful) styling. I specifically chose this knife to replace my blue bump because of its eccentricity.

The G10 is used to magnificent effect. This is a very different texture than most G10, using long (vertical axis) grooves down the black area, and smooth silver twill at the top. The silver twill itself has a lot of depth and gives it a bit of a 3D appearance. It's not a bright as the silver twill in the Spyker, if I recall though.

The attention to detail is the greatest of any production knife I've ever seen. This is a knife for people who want custom styling at a reasonable price. This knife is not boring to look at from any angle. The shiny large backspacers, the brilliant wharncliffe or the grooved lock are all impressive. Snody and Benchmade didn't neglect a single visual aspect of the knife.

The action is incredible. This is the smoothest and most free (without blade play, anyway) liner lock I've ever used, comparable to Emerson's production knives. This makes the knife very flickable.

The lockup is perfect, with the entire very thick titanium lockbar touching the tang, but with 50% of the tang left to account for wear. The lockbar takes just the right amount of force to unlock. All too often my crosslocks will take so much forced to get the bar across again that my thumb builds huge calluses. Not so with the gravitator. This might reduce lock wear also.

The balance of the knife is the best of any folder I've ever had. It feels perfect.

This knife is only available in right side tip down carry, so a lot of people will be left out. The clip works well (it's the same one used on most Benchmades) but is unattractive, in my opinion. I'd rather have an anodized and plain clip like on the morpho. No big deal though, I think I'll pay STR to make me some new clips.

The blade is 154CM and is a really interesting wharncliffe design. This is my very first wharncliffe, and it's quite a departure from my normal love of recurves. I really like the thumb rap on the back, it's much longer than normal and is concave. It really allows you to utilize your thumb during cutting.

The ergonomics are surprisingly excellent. The weird handle shape had initially discouraged me, and Benchmade (in my opinion) only rarely has very good ergonomics (at least in compariison with Spyderco and some Kershaws). The feel is very reminiscent of the dodo, except the grooves in the handle are much less pronounced on the gravitator. This makes it slightly less comfortable than the dodo, but more adaptable in different grips. Further, it's probably more compatible with extreme hand sizes in either direction.

Fit and finish is excellent. Blade is centered, the grind is even and there's no play at all, despite how easy it is to open. There is one minor flaw, a tiny unfinished area before the thumb ramp, but it's extremely small and I don't think anyone would notice it casually.

One slight concern I have is that there's not much ball detent in the knife. It's adequate, but I could definitely see it opening on its own once or twice in its life time. However, being tip down only, not really that big of a deal.

The thumbstuds are larger than normal and are placed very well for the thumb. Opening this knife is a sinch.

Overall, an excellent knife. It won't replace the morpho as my favorite, but this will definitely stay in my EDC rotation for years.

UPDATE****************************

I've been using this knife pretty extensively for a couple weeks now. Here are a few things I've noticed: first, the knife isn't particularly sharp...I'm so often disappointed with out of the box sharpness, but I think this is the least sharp knife I've received in awhile, which is borderline dull. My months old 960 is still much, much sharper than this was new. Benchmade has to be the least consistent in sharpness of the high end production knives...from absolutely excellent to acceptable to not very good, it seems like a random draw. But, I find this barely acceptable. It's useable, at least.

The knife is a little too wide when closed...the thumb ramp is excellent, but the upswept turn makes it a little bigger than it should be, not unlike a spyderco (due to the hole). I'm not sure if I'd change it though...it's a compromise. Spyderco fans shouldn't find this bothersome.

I really like Benchmade's interpretation of the liner lock. In every aspect it seems better than my other company's linerlocks.

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How's that Morpho working for you? I love mine. The only fault I can find is that there is a small amount of play in one handle that I can not adjust out. The other handle is dead on, no movent at all. It's one of my new favorite utility blades.
 
I love my morpho. It's probably my favorite production knife ever. my latch is functional, but it doesn't close perfectly perpendicular to the handles, which bothers me aesthetically. I've been thinking about sending it into benchmade or fixing it myself. But as you can tell from the photos, very minor. It really is an amazing knife in everyway.

I'd be happy to ID the knives:
From left to right for all
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Morpho, 960, 425

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Spyderfly, D`allara drop point, Dodo, Gravitator, Avalanche, mini mojo
 
Congrats on finally taking the plunge on the Grav! :)

Not everyone "gets it"; but those of us who do love it! :thumbup:

Thanks for the pics.
 
Good review, good knife. Oddly enough I've got a Snody Hybrid in my pocket as we speak which the whole office is using me for to open gifts today. Funny how I'm a psycho with a bunch of knives until one of them actually needs to open stuff.:)

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For the office, you might try a Yojimbo....probably more sheeple friendly, but with roughly the same design as the 425.
 
Hey! Awesome, a fellow Mac-user. :D

Is that a MacBook? I'm on one right now.

Also, thanks for the fantastic review. Really informative.

I think I'm gonna get me one of these :D
 
I just wanted to do a brief overview of the Gravitator for people that can't play with one in real life.

The most obvious feature of this knife is it's strange (but beautiful) styling. I specifically chose this knife to replace my blue bump because of its eccentricity.

The G10 is used to magnificent effect. This is a very different texture than most G10, using long (vertical axis) grooves down the black area, and smooth silver twill at the top. The silver twill itself has a lot of depth and gives it a bit of a 3D appearance. It's not a bright as the silver twill in the Spyker, if I recall though.

The attention to detail is the greatest of any production knife I've ever seen. This is a knife for people who want custom styling at a reasonable price. This knife is not boring to look at from any angle. The shiny large backspacers, the brilliant wharncliffe or the grooved lock are all impressive. Snody and Benchmade didn't neglect a single visual aspect of the knife.

The action is incredible. This is the smoothest and most free (without blade play, anyway) liner lock I've ever used, comparable to Emerson's production knives. This makes the knife very flickable.

The lockup is perfect, with the entire very thick titanium lockbar touching the tang, but with 50% of the tang left to account for wear. The lockbar takes just the right amount of force to unlock. All too often my crosslocks will take so much forced to get the bar across again that my thumb builds huge calluses. Not so with the gravitator. This might reduce lock wear also.
:thumbup: I totally agree with all of this.

However, I have many issues with the knife that have caused me to attempt to sell it (with little luck so far).

It's just too thick, for one thing. That coupled with the hacksaw-like extended thumb ramp (which is ugly and unnecessary) make it one of the most unpocketable knives I've ever owned, and I love Spyderco.

The narrowing handle would feel great if the finger grooves would line up with my fingers in any reasonable way at all, but they don't, and, like yours, mine came with a stupidly thick edge.

What I have is a beautiful knife with flawless execution and fit and finish that is totally uncomfortable in hand and in pocket, as well as being a poor user due to off ergos and thick edge. I handled a Yojimbo at the gun show, and it's everything this knife should be minus the beauty, which is the typical Spyderco VS Benchmade scenario, anyway.
 
Artfully Martial, great review with good insight into the performance of this knife. Interesting comments on the initial lack of sharpness. Have you used it enough now that you would be willing to comment on the edge-keeping ability of the steel now that you have doubtless touched it up? And how easy was it to do that?
 
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm particularly surprised that you don't find the ergonomics to your tastes...I think this the most ergonomic Benchmade I've ever held--I had also imagined that the bigger "bumps" in the handle would account for more of varying hand sizes than the dodo or manix (both brilliantly ergonomic to me themselves). Hmm...do you perhaps have unusually large or small hands? This info could be useful to potential grav buyers.

As per the huge thumb ramp, I have a love hate relationship with it. I actually just don't like how the knife looks closed from most angles (angles that include it). It looks so weird. But when open, I love how the knife looks, from every angle. It definitely creates an unecessarily long (across) knife when closed, but I'm surprised a Spyderco fan would be trouble by this...I'm a pretty big lover of the spydercos, as might be discerned from these photos, but the hole always makes the knife too long across when closed--a compromise I just have to deal with for the hole. For the D'allara, it was enough for me to sell it (I gave the one in the photo to my cousin).
I don't have so much trouble with this one...but I have a very unique (weird?) carry style that I'll share with you, which might make it more acceptable. I take a knife to the watch pocket of my jeans (that little one in the right front pocket) and cut out an inch or so in the bottom of it. Then I whatever knife I'm going to carry that day in it. I find this method is HUGELY advantageous for these reasons:

Every knife becomes ultra low profile when worn with a t-shirt--the much higher placement of the small pocket hides it completely

No scraping your hand up when reaching for your keys

No scraping your knife up when riding with the keys

Knife is always in the exact same place, no matter the knife, no matter the jeans

Doesn't poke you in the leg when you sit down

In any case, if the knife will fit in that pocket (small knives you don't even have to cut a hole in the bottom of the pocket) I'm happy. The grav narrowly makes the qualification...

On another note, I find the silver twill and high clip placement of the grav make it an inherently low profile knife to carry in general. The silver twill blends much better iwth jeans, and there's only a quarter of an inch showing. Now if only the clip weren't shiny....

In regards to the thickness of the knife, I agree, it's quite thick, but there doesn't seem to be many other ways to do liner locks acceptably (which is different than correctly). Had they used normal width ti liners, people would be all over how unsafe this knife is. But now that's effectively framelock thickness, the knife is heralded as super strong. Marketing, I know, but I suppose thickness of this amount doesn't really bother me much. However, you could probably remove the scales and make it a framelock and save 1/3 inch.

It's too bad you're not having as good an experience as yours as I am with mine. This is my new favorite beater.

There's a Snody in the HK line I'm thinking about picking up too....the little 3 inch G10 one. That'd be a nice more EDC friendly beater.

Oh, in regards to edge retention: believe it or not, I haven't touched it up, my sharpmaker is in another city right now unfortunately, so it's having to make it on its own. Difficult to say for edge retention at the only sort of sharp point, as a knife can stay sort of sharp for a pretty good while. I think the real question for grav sharpness is whether or not touching up will do the trick...or will I need to reprofile (I don't do that...). I'm not one of those guys that requires super sharp knives, so as long as it cuts decently, I'm happy.

Oh, and that is indeed an apple. Seemed like a good backdrop.
 
My issue with the ergos is most likely a personal issue. When I hold the knife in regular hammer grip, it fits very well and feels great, but choke up at all and my fingers end up in all the wrong places, and when actually using it, they always seem to line up right on the little lumps in awkward ways. I have largish to medium sized hands.

Also, it's not the width in pocket that bothers me, it's the handle thickness paired with the sharp point the thumb ramp comes to along with the very pointy, aggressive serrations. I find that extended ramp that comes to an aggressive point a serious design flaw for a tip down, pocket clip carry knife. I carry many wide Spyders with no discomfort.

I like the idea for the cut out watch pocket a lot. I already put smaller knives there, but I wouldn't cut out the bottom personally, because I often carry small, clipless pocket knives in that pocket like my Kiwi.

EDIT: I really like the looks of that Kershaw Avalanche. What's the blade steel on that one? I may pick one up.
 
The avalanche is a great knife for the money. S30V on the modern ones, 440V on the older ones (I think). Mine's S30V. I have a little overview of it too somewhere. I can't take photos right now, but when I'm at my other house I can take more if you'd like...I'm sure I'll travel a little in the next few weeks.

But here's the short notes on the Avalanche:

G10 texture is GREAT. Very rough...just the way I like it.

The size is about right. Inbetween a minigrip and a full sized grip, if memory serves (I don't have either grips anymore). 3.3ish inches.

The S30V came nice and sharp, if I recall, but you might want to look that up...it's been awhile. It certainly is sharp now.

The black coating has stood the test of time so far. I don't carry it often, for some reason. I bought it as a beater, and just didn't have much beater duty at the time.

The liner lock is moderately thick, if that matters, and the lockup might be a little short for some, but I like it. 3/4s of the lockbar is on the tang, with a bit hanging off...that's fine with me, and it survived a moderate spine whack against something hard (probably the desk) and of course my hand just fine. I trust it.

The AO is pretty strong in it...not a big fan for AO, but this is one of the few knives I just don't think would work as well without it.

This one is for right handed people only. No reversable clip (although tip up/down reversable) and only one side has a thumbstud.

The biggest plus on the Avalanche is its price. 80 dollars gets you top notch S30V, G10 and AO. it's a very well put together knife...it's a very confidence inspiring solid feel. Kershaw's best deal right now. I still prefer the spec bump, but that's something like 30+ dollars more.
 
Great review. I also agree with everything you had to say and it all applies to my BM 426, the Hybrid. Those liners are super thick at .080" and the thickest BM has ever used in a liner lock. One thing I've done to minimize the shiny clips on my knives is to apply some black 3M StairStep tape to them. This stuff is much like the black inserts on MT's and others, and works real well to help you remove the knife from your pocket. Again, GREAT review!!:thumbup: :thumbup:
 
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