grayman knives - anyone got a nice one?

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my buddy in the army recently got a couple grayman knives one of which was the dinka and the smaller skinner/spade looking design. now, these knives arent really my style but i try to be unbiased and look at the fit and finish. i think he paid around $300 for these 2 blades and they looked.. well... terrible. honestly crap. it appears these are "hard use" (sharpened pry bar) type knives but the 1/4in stock wasnt even ground to a workable edge. the edge was super thick and looked as if it had been ground with a very low grit wheel so it was VERY toothy and not sharp with uneven grinds. the scales were separating from the blade at he front of the handle and the spine looked as if someone had takin a grinder to it just for fun. the spine was visibly sloped being a good 2mm higher on one side.

i wish i had pictures but alas the knives are not mine and my buddy is completely happy (how i dont know). i, however, cannot believe they shipped these. honestly i think i could made a better knife on my first attempt. please someone show me one of these knives that appears to be quality!!! i want to have faith in the world!!! how can someone charge $150 for this and still be in business?
 
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Think it's been said and written that the maker was out to make purely "tough as nails" knives and not works of art. This is reflected in it's less than perfect finish.
 
I have yet to see one that interested me. They all seem to have poor geometry based on the pics I have seen, some worse than others. I don't mind thick stock, but the grinds have to account for it to have good cutting performance. And the prices are too high for Poor F&F. If he wants to make knives crudely, then the prices should reflect their lack of refinement.
 
tell me about it, for that kinda money he could have gone with one Busse and been better off. it appears they do thick the right way.
 
I think there are a few makers who have jumped on the "no it aint pretty, its meant for REAL use" bandwagon. They use it as an excuse for poorly done knives and instead try to appeal to your "its so ugly and crude, its gotta be tough" side. This way they dont have to spend the extra time to make a decently finished knife and instead try to plant some seed of thought that "if it were finished well, it just wouldnt be as good".

They tend to turn out beginner level knives and attempt to convince you they are worth premium prices.
 
I haven't see any of the knives, but I go by an old rule in my shop.

"If you start out with crap it will probably still be crap when you are finished."

Paul
 
The crude finish is a professional trait mark reflecting the handiwork of a true real-life "Rambo" at work.
-http://www.graymanknives.com/ct4.jpg
 
watchcollector1968 said:
I think there are a few makers who have jumped on the "no it aint pretty, its meant for REAL use" bandwagon. They use it as an excuse for poorly done knives and instead try to appeal to your "its so ugly and crude, its gotta be tough" side.
They tend to turn out beginner level knives and attempt to convince you they are worth premium prices.
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Hallelujah. I hear several voices of reason and wisdom here (you too Paul :D )


GIRLYmann said:
The crude finish is a professional trait mark reflecting the handiwork of a true real-life "Rambo" at work.
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There are no TRADE Marks on a poorly finished knife, many can and do try to sell them everyday.

Actually this Guy was outed at the same time that a couple of other Posers had their 15 Minutes (or was it 15 weeks) in the GBU last year. (Perhaps you are being facetious when you called him Rambo - I hope so). Anyone that sells sharpened Blank Stock and claims they are stictly to be used to Kill Al Qaeda should be taken with a grain of salt.

Chuck - I'm sorry to hear that your buddy learned the hard way.
 
Well at least your friend is happy. You might have to "enlighten" him a little bit by asking if he'd like you to sharpen his knife. This could almost merge with the "how to tell someone their knife is crappy" thread :o

From the sounds of it, I could be putting out knives straight from the stock with minimal work efforts and call it "tough" and "heavy duty." :thumbdn:
 
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