Grayman Sub-Saharan's: 7,8 & 10

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The Sub-Saharan series is one of the best designs to come out of Grayman knives. First, if these seem slightly familiar, like something you may have seen from MercWorx or even a Strider Ajax there’s good reason for this. Mike had a large role in designing many of the knives of MercWorx and collaborated on the Ajax and Mantrack. However, unlike Mercworx there are no fine polishes or stainless steels. The handles aren’t epoxied into place and fixed with tubes (a perfectly solid method). The blades are coated with Duracoat, all are of 1095 steel and the handles are attached via hex screws allowing one to easily remove, modify, or replace them. Personally, I’ve become a huge fan of 1095. It’s tough, reliable, easy to sharpen and, in my opinion, better for hard use all around than a high end stainless.

Starting at the sharp part, the blade design incorporates the best features of most combat/utility knives. For about the first half of the blade (tip to hilt) the blade is essentially a wide dagger, double edged and symmetrical. From here it transitions to a recurve on the primary edge and dips into an unsharpened portion on the spine. This has two key advantages, The first being that with stabbing and thrusting motions you have a dagger profile, allowing crucial penetration but also a wide wound channel this case. Second, when slashing the blade acts as a phenomenal recurved bowie, pulling material into the curve and using its mass to great effect. The unsharpened portion on the spine is truly a product of real world use and development. First, by the time you’ve thrust 4inches of nearly 3inch wide dagger into someone, the rest of the blade is going to follow without a hitch. It also prevents you from forgetting it’s there at the worse time and sticking your thumb or hand on a razor edge. On the same note, I found that it worked will for my support hand when making push cuts and allowed me to maximize its potential as a survival blade. Carefully holding the wood in my lap, I was able to hold the spine with my left hand, the handle with my right and draw the knife towards me to do fine work. Also, this provides a good point for batoning where you aren’t beating your baton to splinters on the sharpened back edge.



The knives arrive with a coarse edge, allowing the micro serrations to be useful and letting the owner decide how he wants the edge finished. They don’t come shaving sharp, but they do everything asked of them and can easily have that sharpness.

There are no traditional guards on this knife, but rather integral hilts. These not only prevent the hand from slipping forward (which would be even more unlikely considering the handle and Gator Grips) but also allow one to “choke up” around the choil for fine work. I’ve grown to prefer this style of guard as it is simply one less thing to break.



The handle is well designed as well. It is comfortable in multiple grips, from further back on the handle to take full advantage of the chopping potential, to in a reverse grip. My 7 and 10 both came with the original Gator Grip, a checkered G10 that’s relatively common. While there is nothing wrong with these, the new Gator Grip seen on the 8 is far superior. It truly melts in your hand and provides a very comfortable grip.











Here you can see how the fingers naturally fall in the reverse grip.









The sheath is a kydex liner inserted in a cordura MOLLE compatible sheath. The blade does not snap in and out of the sheath like many production knives but is held secured by a thumb snap. I can see this being an advantage where a tightly fitted sheath may stick and prevent a clean draw in dirty or sandy conditions. As the kydex is a rather simple affair you could easily make your own if you prefer and insert it into the cordura or simply heat the supplied one to get a different fit. One thing I would like to see in the future is the use of MALICE clips rather than the standard MOLLE webbing. I find them to be more robust and secure. I simply ran the MOLLE webbing down the back, secured it, and went with the MALICE clips.



The coating on these knives is an attractive black with a slight gloss finish to it. While this isn’t best for those desiring a no glare knife, there’s no reason you can’t hit it with some dull coat or krylon. Unfortunately it also wears rather easily. Again, its easy to provide an expedient coat of paint if you really need it. I’d like to see perhaps Parkerizing offered as it has low reflectivity and wears well or perhaps cerakote. Nothing explicitly wrong with duracoat, but there is something better out there. But the real question is whether or not these coatings are worth it, will they wear just as easily or bit less? Cost/benefit analysis is going to have to come into play here.



The 8

The 8 falls in between the 7 and 10 on the scale of battle blades, not a full on fighter like the 10 but not of a more “standard size” (and by that I mean the ubiquitous “7 and 12” that’s so prevalent, 7inch blade 12 inches overall). This knife is a single bevel and before I go further I should discuss that.

Mike believes the single bevel, or chisel grind, has some important advantages and I can’t really disagree. It is easier to sharpen (not that a double bevel is especially difficult by any stretch of the imagination), maintains the full thickness for more of the blade (though this can clearly vary depending on the knife), and has some combative attributes as well. First, it makes an asymmetrical wound channel that is harder to seal and slower to heal. I found that it was also better for using as an expedient shovel. The first thing I noticed about this single bevel was that it was on the “right” side. Much has been made about the Emerson chisel grind which has the flat on the right side (looking at the spine). Some argue that this should be done in the opposite manner for a right handed person. Personally, for cutting fibrous material and other soft objects, I don’t see much of a difference. However, when working on making fuzz sticks, delimbing a branch, or other tasks in a survival/field craft situation, the Grayman single bevel (with the flat on the left side if looking at the spine) is absolutely preferred. The flat of the blade rode on the wood and cut it effortlessly. Luckily, it was easy to see how the knife would perform if ground on the opposite side: I simply flipped it over and used the back edge. One thing I found interesting was that the single bevel seemed to face more resistance when penetrating. I tested this on cardboard (sorry folks, no one would volunteer to take one for the team), and felt that the flat made full contact with the entire blade and thus created more drag. With a double bevel, only the flats are making full contact and thus face less drag. This is merely my impression; neither had any problem and I’m sure you’d have no problem stabbing someone’s spine through their chest but I got the feeling that the single bevel wasn’t as good as a double for stabs.

Single Bevel seen from the spine







The Sub-Saharan is a phenomenal design and my favorite, period. It’s entirely capable in a combat, survival, or field craft role. Luckily, there are four sizes to choose from, the 5 for lighter tasks (something that would go well in a survival kit or on the kit of someone who doesn’t want/need a large knife), to the 7 which falls in the classic fighter/utility category, all the way up to the 10 and 8 which are no nonsense large blades perfectly capable of taking down a tree or severing a Jihadist’s head.


http://graymanknives.com/subs.html
 
Great Review

Grayman makes some EXCELLENT knives and Mike is OUTSTANDING when it comes to customer support and service AFTER the sale

Dr.Bill
 
Nice review!

Still not sold on these though. A chisel ground piece of 1095 that doesn't come sharp and is duracoated for $300+ is hard to swallow. In addition, I can think of blade shapes that would be much more useful unless I was stabbing someone...
 
Got to love Graymans :thumbup:

I've been looking at them for years and somehow still don't have one :o

NICE pics, we need more :D
 
I purchased a MegaPounder 6 DB. I paid what I consider to be a mid-high price for a knife (he doesn't offer discounts for military, so I paid the price you see on his website. That's a non-issue, though, because I figure "the workman is worth his hire."). I paid the extra money for the upgraded scales. The knife arrived with an uneven primary and secondary bevel, random grind marks all over the blade like the knife had been ground in such a hurry that various parts of the knife had accidentally come in contact with the grinder, the black finish was missing on a 3/4 moon shape area the size of 3/4 of a silver dollar (the old ones) on the left side of the blade. The edge grind was so rough you could stick your fingernail edge into the ridges created by the grinder and you didn't need a magnifying glass to see hairlike pieces of metal were still hanging off the edge. Why didn't I return it? Well, I re-read the ads and web site and they spelled out the fact that the knife would be ugly, rough, and not a collectible item. They didn't lie. I figured it was my own fault for buying sight unseen. I still like the basic shape, and the steel (assuming a proper heat treat) should be good, so I decided to make the best of my decision. I took 15 to 30 minutes whenever I can make it into the garage over the last month to work on the edge. I've been using a 220 grit EZ Lap diamond stone and have finally arrived at the point where about 95 percent of the edge no longer shows the factory grind marks. The unevenness of the primary and secondary bevels has really been kicking my butt. I had to remove an impressive amount of steel just to get the edge to lay flat on the stone. Most of the time I was just grinding away at two high points with the area between remaining untouched. The tip and the back of the edge near the choil are still out of whack, but I'll get there in time. At least I have an even, working edge. Now I just need to hone the edge I have so that I can finally take it out in the field and see if the blade shape is as functional as I think it will be. That's my experience with their knife so far, and this is my feeling about it:
A knife doesn't have to be pretty or refined, but its reason for being is to cut. A honed, polished edge maintains its keeness longer than a rough edge. That's why dorks like me will take a knife through 400, 800, 2000, and 4000 grit stones and finish them on a strop. I want that edge to last as long as possible on my hunting, hiking, camping, survival trip. I can handle the fact that the knife looks like it accidentally fell in a rock crusher before being shipped to me, (though I really do like a pretty knife!) but the crappy edge was truly a disappointment. Like the Grayman, my 4 primary knives are made in the US. Two have lower price points, came with nicely polished edges, and are made of the same 1095 steel with an excellent heat treat. The 3rd cost just a little more and is made of a modern stainless steel. All have comfortable handle shapes and scales without having to pay extra for a comfort upgrade. Make your own decision, but I'd recommend seeing and handling the knife before purchasing to make sure the product meets your expectations.
 
Sorry yours arrived like that. From what I've read I've been very fortunate that mine all arrived in probably the best condition they can.
 
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