Great Eastern Cutlery is well... Great! (#33 Conductor thread)

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Finally decided on picking up a knife by Great Eastern Cutlery. I decide to go with the #33 Conductor pattern, after flipping through the GEC website and sifting through the Traditional Sub-Forum. I'm really fond of pen knives, and the Conductor's swell in the middle of the pattern snuck it's way into my heart.

After deciding on the pattern that really seemed to dig at me looked around to see if any of these little guys were still waiting on being bought. I've gleaned from reading that these guys were born in 2011.
I found a few sources and was a bought to simply pull the trigger until I noticed something about all of the sites I visited. Some of the websites had Conductors labeled as Great Eastern Cutlery and others as Northfield. I further researched the different brands and learned that GEC's Northfield and Tidioute are always (usually) offered in 1095 carbon steel. The former brand being higher-end and the latter being a no-frills option (e.g. northfield has pinched bolsters sometimes, the tidioute partner has normal bolsters). Moreover, any knives branded Great Eastern Cutlery sport a 440C stainless blade.

Being an enthusiast of production knives, I initially thought on taking the stainless route. I took another naughty look at the Northfield version of the Conductor and found the "stripes" on the bolster, UN-X-LD shield, long-looking nail nick, and bail ridiculously attractive but it had a 1095 carbon blade. I sat on the thought of both knives for a while. Do I go the stainless route and be a little less careful with the blade, or do I go carbon steel and start the journey into patinas and [more often] maintaining my new knife?

Here are stock some pictures of my next potential slipjoint.
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I felt like bonding with my newest slipjoint, so I took the Northfield train. The patina that will eventually appear on the 1095 will tell a stories about the journeys and adventures that this knife will soon embark on.

Here are some pictures of her :)

Next to my Case Peanut in Red Jigged Bone
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Clip blades being brandished!
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Immediately after opening the brown cardboard box, I was greeted by a small cylindrical cardboard tube. It was a lot smaller than I thought it was going to be!.. but the #33 is a small knife. Makes sense.

The cardboard tube is really cool. The sticker GEC puts on the tube really brings you back into the past. The plastic cover on the tube is swell, too. Written by hand on it is the pattern number, what the scale is, and the serial number. Inside, the knife is wrapped in wax paper and a little business card size piece of paper lists some information about the knife, as well as someone's signature.
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The fit and finish on the knife is what I would say pretty good. There are no gaps on the backspring, liners, and scales. The scales themselves have a pretty nice pattern on them (I lucked out!). I definitely like the shield scale better than the opposite side. The opposite side feels a little bit more "burnt," like a woody texture, than glossy like the shield side. From what I've absorbed from reading, the scale side is usually more attractive. What's also cool, too, is that the non-shield scale is a little bit thicker, fitting in your palm better. The tangs on either blade are fairly sharp. They feel less acute now (a few days after fondling the knife) but they surprised me on my first feel. On the main blade, where the nail nick ends, and the swedge begins, it feels a little pointy. Taking a very closeup look at the spot being mentioned, it's probably just like that due to the design. Now about, the bail, this is my first knife with one! The bail was one of the deciding factors on this knife, between the time I ordered and received the knife, I wondered whether or not I'd like the bail. The bail sort-of gets in the way of the pen blade if I want to open it, but that's just a matter of moving the bail around so it's touching the backspring. Also, I rarely ever use the pen knife, so this isn't really much of an issue. The bail is a little stuff, and looks like it's scratching the bolster a little. I'm not too concerned about this, since I plan on using this little guy and admiring the "pocket worn" look later down in life. The pull on this knife is pretty decent. Right after unboxing, it felt a little too stiff for taste. As of writing this post, the pull feels really good; guess she needed time to break in. The "lock-up" (sorry, I can't remember the slipjoint term for this) is a good magnitude, too. The blade doesn't leap into position like a mad man, but it does with a fair amount of haste. Definitely not enough for little slippie to jump out of my hands.

All-in-all, I'm very thoroughly satisfied with my newest acquistion, the Great Eastern Cutlery "Northfield" #33 Conductor. I enjoy the feeling of having a beautiful stag slipjoint in my pocket. I'm sure non-knife folk would be appreciate the workmanship GEC put into this piece. The size is great. A little bit bigger than my Case Peanut, and has that beautiful swell in the middle of the knife. It's sort of like the opposite of a figure-eight figure on a fine woman.. but man, those curves [on the knife!!] The 1095 blades are ridiculously shiny and I love it. The grooves on the bolsters look amazing, but I'll be honest I forget that they are there sometimes. Now, the pinched bolsters on the other hand. Lookin good!

I hope those who have not bought their first GEC traditional will read this article and further understand what the different brands of GEC mean. I'm glad that I made the decision to purchase one of their offerings and enjoyed researching different patterns and personal experience. My next purchase will probably be a #68 White Owl or a #48 Trapper.
 
Looks great! Love the stag, would love to see a pile side pic. I pulled the trigger on a #33 as well, but went with a Tidioute in ebony (hasn't arrived yet). Went with the Tidioute because I use a pen blade a lot and wasn't sure how comfortable the bail would be, but do like the idea of being able to tether it to a belt being such a small knife. Enjoy yours, it's a looker! Nice pics btw.
 
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The #33 is an excellent little knife!! It looks like you have a nice one too. I have a tortoise shell acrylic one in my pocket right now. Just so you know though, there is an SFO #33 in 440c with bail out there. It is a "Dog Paw" knife and available with stag or bone covers.
 
Thanks for the positive feedback guys!

Looks great! Love the stag, would love to see a pile side pic. I pulled the trigger on a #33 as well, but went with a Tidioute in ebony (hasn't arrived yet). Went with the Tidioute because I use a pen blade a lot and wasn't sure how comfortable the bail would be, but do like the idea of being able to tether it to a belt being such a small knife. Enjoy yours, it's a looker! Nice pics btw.

I'd say the bail is fairly comfortable. With the main blade open and the bail "sticking out straight," I can wrap my pinky around the bail. With the pen blade out I can either rest the bail on the spine of the pen blade or rest the bail on the backspring. When doing the former, I can rest my thumb on the bail [instead of the spine of the pen blade] and it feels pretty comfortable. With the latter, my thumb rests on the spine, and the bail isn't in the way. I do notice it there though; it doesn't really "disappear" with either method.

I'm not planning on using pen blade too much. I'm leaving it as either a tape cutting blade or a "back-up" razor sharp scalpel.

You're definitely going to like your Tidioute!

Good pick, SurfingSalmon!

Looking at the pictures of your new one, I was inspired again to look for Sonnemann's:

Enjoy yours. :)

~ P.

Thanks! Yeah, I saw that one in... I don't remember if it was like a "show your stag knives thread" or something similar but I saw his and I had to snag one of my own!

Oh, and congratulations on winning the GEC Farmer Lock contest!

The #33 is an excellent little knife!! It looks like you have a nice one too. I have a tortoise shell acrylic one in my pocket right now. Just so you know though, there is an SFO #33 in 440c with bail out there. It is a "Dog Paw" knife and available with stag or bone covers.

Oh sweet, I love the look of tortoise shell! I picked up a nifty little Boker Trapper with a tortoise shell-like scales, and it makes a fun and good looking user.

What's the story about "Dog Paw?" I might have stumbled across one of the stock photos of that guy, but didn't find one on any of the websites I've browsed through.
 
I've been looking at these for weeks now and had already decided it was on my list of must have GEC's. I want ebony or apple jigged bone but yours looks great too!
 
Thanks SurfingSalmon for the input on how the bail feels in hand while in use. Much appreciated! :thumbup:
If I like the Tidioute version I just might get a Northfield! :)
 
Great looking blade. I'm starting to get a lot of respect for the various patterns
 
The #33 is a grand pattern. It's excellent for those who are minimalist at heart. The bail loop is a nice touch and I really enjoy mine, it adds to the esthetics IMO. The burnt stag is one of my favorite handle materials from GEC, they do a great job with it.
 
The question about the stainless vs. carbon steel is an interesting one. I have both Carbon steel slip joints, and three stainless (two others in D2 which seems, for practical purposes to me, to be just about stainless).

I go both ways. I sure like a good patina. One area where I appreciate the stainless is when cutting fruit for snacks. I can detect just a hint of metallic flavoring in fruit cut with the carbon slip joint. I still use them frequently for this task. But I have a few slipjoints in stainless that normally get that job. Like my Schatt and Morgan File and wire.

I also just got a custom slipjoint a few weeks ago. I specifically decided to go with stainless (CMP 154) on that knife, instead of 01 for the steel. Because I wanted the knife to remain "pretty" and stain free. Not because I don't like a dark, stained, Patined blade. I really do.

I just wanted, when I pull a sweet custom knife out, to have others think it looks sharp and shiny. Many people (non knife and knife people alike) look at a carbon blade with well earned patina and say "Gross"! Many on this very forum, disparage carbon steel for anything food related. They think it is unsanitary (though I don't understand why).

I have both, and like both.

I will say, that for edge retention, my steels like Ats 34, CMP 154, and of course D2 seem to hold an edge longer than my 1095 and 1075 etc. (I know it is not really stainless, but I lump D2 in there, because even with no care, I have yet to have it take a stain or rust).

The 1095 is super easy to keep really sharp. So it is a trade off.


I just love GEC knives. The conductor is a beauty, especially with the long pull, stamped bail!

You will love it in which ever steel.
 
I, too, have resorted to taking stainless knives to work. It's no fun getting negative reactions to patina when you pull out your knife to cut food. The uninitiated think it's dirty.
 
I also just got a custom slipjoint a few weeks ago. I specifically decided to go with stainless (CMP 154) on that knife, instead of 01 for the steel. Because I wanted the knife to remain "pretty" and stain free. Not because I don't like a dark, stained, Patined blade. I really do.

I just wanted, when I pull a sweet custom knife out, to have others think it looks sharp and shiny. Many people (non knife and knife people alike) look at a carbon blade with well earned patina and say "Gross"! Many on this very forum, disparage carbon steel for anything food related. They think it is unsanitary (though I don't understand why).

Oh I totally agree with you about the steel choice on a custom. If I was given the choice of ATS34/CPM154 over 1095 or D2 I'd jump in it in a heartbeat. The modern folder enthusiast in me absolutely loves those two stainless steels. Fairly easy to sharpen or touch up and great edge retention.
 
Oh I totally agree with you about the steel choice on a custom. If I was given the choice of ATS34/CPM154CM over 1095 or D2 I'd jump in it in a heartbeat. The modern folder enthusiast in me absolutely loves those two stainless steels. Fairly easy to sharpen or touch up and great edge retention.

fixed.
CPM154 is not the same as 154CM. CPM154 has superior properties.
154CM has the same composition and properties as ATS-34.
 
fixed.
CPM154 is not the same as 154CM. CPM154 has superior properties.
154CM has the same composition and properties as ATS-34.
Oops! You caught me there! Sorry, I mixed up the names of the two 154 steels. I know that the CPM one is Crucible's "take" on the steel. 154CM is the American equivalent of ATS-34 (japanese) right?

Thanks for the correction!
 
The GEC #33 is a great pattern. A lot of blade at a slim profile. I haven´t used mine that much... there are too many knives in my box that need to be carried...

However - you got a great looking Conductor there.

Thanks for sharing :)
 
I like the Conductor pattern well enough. Cant figure out why they are so expensive though.
 
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