Greco #5 in M2

longbow

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Anyone know anything about this Greco creation. Just traded for one and don't know anything about it. Saw a pic and looked like exactly what I am looking for to use as a field knife. Clip point and appeared to be canvas micarta scales. Any input is appreciated. Keep'em sharp and have a Merry Xmas

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I'll answer my own questions. Talked to Mr. Greco on the phone last night and a more pleasent gentleman to talk to and answer my questions you will not find. Anyways without the knife in my hands and going from the scan I have seen of it he told me this.
It was made when he lived Miss. before moving to where he is now.(Viginia?) Anyways according to him the #5 stamped on the blade inidicates it was made of 5160 steel. Differentially tempered with the spine being softer than the cutting edge and the handle being softer yet. Made of .25" stock. It is known as the Foxfire. Pre-tactical that he is known for now. He originally made a number of these knives for a company called Chesapeake Tool Co. Again I could be wrong on the name but it is close. He then said after the knives were made that they cancelled the order for them. He eventually sold off the inventory through some of his dealers and through his shop. He also pointed out that these knives were all handmade and handground. No fixtures were used in production as he does now. The blade should have a working length of 4.75-5" with a slight drop clip point with a nice swedge on top. It will have paper linen micarta handle slabs and a nylon plastic lined sheath(it does). He also stated that it is the basis for alot of his designs now. Also indicated it is a knife that is made to be used and not pampered. Depending on the number of holes in the pommel one or two will indicate if it is the FF1 for FF2. Can't wait to get it in my hands. Merry Xmas and keep'em sharp.

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Hello Longbow,

Is the pic of the #5 available on-line? If so, plz direct!

Also, for clarification: your title refers to M2 but your description notes that its steel is 5160 (extremely tough! -- great for bigger blades). Is the M2 a mistake, or is it referring to something other than blade steel?

Thanks and best for the holidays --
Glen
 
The steel was supposed to be M2 at least according to the gentleman I am dealing with.
The 5160 is just fine by me. He sent me a scan of the knife and that is all I have to go by until it arrives. The #5 indicates that it is 5160 that is according to Mr. Greco. He said the Foxfire design was the basis for most of his work now. Keep'em sharp and Happy Holidays.
 
I recently bought what I think is known as the "Clip-tip fighter" from a forumite. It's brand new, has a 5" blade with a nice shallow belly to it and I think it's .25" A2. There is an A stamped into the side. It' similar to those Hammerhead knives has on their site.

I had a Busse Badger Attack and resold it within a week-it looked like a nice utility, even skinner with the drop point blade. When I got it, I couldn't figure out what to do with it-too small for a chopper, too bulky, clumsy even, for skinning or light utility work. It did have thick bevels and a nice sharp edge, though.

The Greco has excellent construction and finish, and also has a similar grind to the Badger, real thick bevels and razor sharp-should last a long time. It, too has a swedge and a very useful blade for utility work. I'd love to get more info on Greco and his knives-low price, excellent steels and good designs and execution.

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According to Mr. Greco the #"s on the choil represents the steels used. So indeed A would mean A2, 5-5160, and 1-10 series of steels. http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~aaronm/greco.jpg
Here is the location of the picture for the knife in question. Appears to have a nice deep grind but thick spine so it should be very stout but easy to sharpen. This is going to work as a camp knife as I have just become caretaker to a friend of mine, 40+ acres of prime whitetail country in the southern tier of NYS. It has a nice big cabin on it but will still see use for camp fires and building ground blinds. Seems to be pretty much brand new looking. You guys have a great Holiday and BE SAFE! Keep'em sharp

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Greetings Longbow,

I have that particular knife and I too got it in a trade with a fellow forumite. I have to say that you will truly enjoy this particular model.
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It is tough as hell and so easy to resharpen. The only thing I would recommend is getting a concealex sheath. The one it comes with is nice enough, just not too secure.
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Otherwise no complaints here.
I am just glad to finally find out which model it is.

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Scarman, can you give me the particulars on the knife as for lenght of blade etc. The fella I traded with said the blade is about 4.5" with the handle being another 5. Mr. Greco said he recalled the Foxfire to be of 5" in blade length with most of that being usable cutting edge with almost a 5" handle.
What is the width of the blade like. Is there anyway the top part of the clip can be sharpened? Any info is appreciated, Happy Holidays and be safe!

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Longbow,

The OAL of the knife is 10". There is almost exactly 5" of sharpened edge. The handle itself comprises 4" with the final edge being the finger cutout you see in the picture.
The knife is a ful 1/4 inch thick and is at it's widest 1 1/8th inches.
That I can see you cannot sharpen the top portion of the clip without ruining the knife.
Hope this helps.

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The vague and tenuous hope that GOD is too kind to punish the ungodly has become a deadly opiate for the conscience of millions.

*A. W. Tozer

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Hello Longbow:

I just got one off Ebay for $75. Just looking at it and hefting it I would say I did OK. Mine has the exact same markings, swedge, handle, rivets, etc. What do you think it is worth? It is brand new and is pretty sharp. What advantage does 5160 have?

Anyway, it seems like a knife built for abuse.

Happy Holidays,

Mike
 
Just recieved mine this p.m. in the mail. It is one hell for stout knife. I have been at the sharpening stone to try and thin the edge to really no avail. It does indeed have thick bevels. The weight seems to be all in the handle too. Don't know yet if that is good or bad. As for 5160 it is differentially temepered by Mr. Greco. It supposedly has some edge holding qualities above and beyond the 01 series of steels etc.
I may end up sending this to Greco to see if he can thin the edge just a tad more for me. It is tuff to grind on let me tell you. Sharp too. I am considering asking him to relieve the handle area down to about 1/8" and then put slabs on it. You know mill it out so the slabs would fit into the milled out portion. Well gotta go do the family thing. Merry Xmas.
 
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