Greco Knives: Info?

Colin Jason

Colin Jason

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Hey all,

In the last little while, I've set my sights on trying to track down a few Greco knives. I read the announcement on his site pertaining to him retiring and such, but also know that he supposedly has a good amount of stock still for sale.

I was hoping to see a listing on his site, but everytime I check any of the pages, they come up pretty much blank.

I'm looking to maybe pick up one of his Whispers, or, what I'd really be interested in, is one of his Falcon folders. I've contemplated putting yet another want ad out on the forums, but I figured I'd get some advice from y'all about the best way to proceed.

Any ideas about how to go about finding one of these knives?
 
ender....
I just went to John's site, clicked on the $50 box at the bottom, and he still shows Whispers. Then I clicked on the $75 box, and he still shows Falcons. Don't know what is still available, but the site isn't empty. :confused:

I'd call him, and see what he's got left. The number is there on the page, or

(270) 932-3335

Good Luck.

Bill
 
OMG!

This just goes to futher illustrate why I hate internet explorer. I use an open-source web browser called Firefox. It's put out by the folks who originally wrote the Netscape browser code.

Well, when I visit his site: http://www.grecoknives.com, and click on the pricing images, I get a blank screen...now I know why...

I fire up Internet Exploder...and lo and behold....I see an image with the information on it. *sighs*

Add yet another reason for me to want Micro*$#! wiped off the planet....grrrr..

Thanks for the heads-up guys! I never even thought to fire up that craptastic browser to see if it made any difference on his site....now I know!

Thanks again!
 
Lemme see if I understand....your open source browser does not show the website as it is, IE shows you what you should see,...yet IE is the "craptastic" one.
:confused:
 
John is a good man to do business with. He's friendly, understanding and efficient.

His knives, of course, are a joy to behold and use.
 
Oh. You mean stuff like this?
;)

greco.JPG


Got an email from John that these are the ONLY ones he presently works on, but not at a great rate from what I understand.

Greco Scagels is what he calls em.
 
I think Firefox has issues with these pages due to certain tags, css, or to something like an unclosed tag. At least, it is a possibility. Different browsers parse HTML code differently. Some don't read certain tags, due to however strict or loose the browser reads it, and based on which tags are said to be deprecated by w3c (world wide web consortium). Many designers don't test their pages in anything but IE, which is a mistake, so it doesn't always work cross browser. Firefox is usually much stricter with code.

I had the same issue for awhile with cqcknives.com and ie6, where I would get nothing but a blank front page. I'd check the source code, it was all there, yet never worked. If i went to a subpage, it worked ok.

On a Greco side, to keep this more on topic, I also enjoy his knives, though I seldom make any use of them. As a matter of fact, I just traded one off to another forumite, who also proclaims great enjoyment of these knives.
 
RH: as a matter of fact, Internet Explorer IS pretty much a pile of crap. If you test how much it impacts the resources on your machine, the fact that it only renders _some_ of the CSS coding standards properly, and is a huge pipeline for allowing websites to install software without you knowing, you would only be touching the tip of the iceberg relating to problems with it. Microsoft's 'Active X' controls have got to be one the best features...if you're a script kiddie, hacker, or virus author. Where else would a company literally give you full control over their software, but simply letting you write a control for it? Keep that in mind the next time your system locks up due to pop-up windows, messenger service attacks, and IE crashing. Lovely stuff.

I address this fact as I deal with repairing people's computers on a daily basis, and if IE were just so great, I'd be out of a job. :rolleyes:

But I digress...

The reason that the pages on Greco's site come up blank in a browser that renders html coding PROPERLY, is because the pictures of the knives, with pricing and assorted informaion, is put in an image with a Microsoft FrontPage encoded image map. Since Internet Explorer is the only browser that can read that craptastic code, it figures that it would only render properly in IE. Since I build websites myself, I've had to address this problem quite a few times, but never something of this magnatude. Most people don't build pages relying on just images for content. This, coupled with FrontPage's lovely internal coding garbage, makes for a page only viewable by one browser. Nice. Yet another reason people really need to understand just how FrontPage puts sites together.

I could go into the many reasons why people really need to learn proper HTML-coding before using a program like FrontPage, but that's a topic for another thread. The main thing is that I found the information I needed, even if I did have to view his site with a low-tech browser to do so. :p

Thanks guys!
 
Beautiful Scagels!
Nice to know that he's not quitting knifemaking altogether.
 
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