Greetings and a question...

Blasto

Blasto

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Hello there. I just got registered today on bladeforums. I've been flipping for about 4 years now and decided I need to expand my educational horizons so to speak.
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Anyhow, I've been working on a throw that I accidentally discovered. By a chance catch, I was left holding the bali closed, with my thumb and forefinger by the tang pin only. I threw it up in the air with a slight forward swing and it did a beautiful, slow, full rotation and landed right in my hand, open and in the forward grip. "WOW!" I thought. But on second, third and fourth try, I was only left with a nice gash in my pinky. After practice, I've only been able to replicate this move about 25% of the time. I'd love to hear if this has already been done by some of you guys, and you're success at it.

Thanks, I look forward to speaking with some of you!

~Blasto
 
Blasto,

I'm having a little trouble visualizing what it is exactly that you are doing. Have you checked out Clay's site? You might find what it is that you're doing there and maybe a couple of pointers on how to improve it. Welcome to the forums. You'll find a lot of info here.

Steve
 
I've been visiting Clay's site for over a year now and actually just checked again to see if what I'm talking about is included. It's not. I'll try to explain it a little more as I think it's a really cool looking manipulation. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to photo/video it.

Hold (dangle) the bali by the tang pin, knife closed, bite handle away from you, pinching with your thumb and index finger. Your fingers should not be touching the handles in any way. In one quick movement, raise your hand, pulling back ever so slightly and release. You'll find you have to release much earlier than you'd expect. Don't drop your wrist too much or else it will have too much spin. Throw it vertical about a foot. It will gracefully, and very slowly spin and open. It's caught just like a normal throw opening - open forward grip. If the move is done too quickly, it will not work because I think the opening is caused more by gravity than it is by spin, so it needs time to open. When it works, it looks quite nice. I'm positive that it's not a "lucky shot" move. It can be mastered. I hope this explains it. I'll see what I can do about photographing it because it's really worth learning.

~Blasto
 
Hi Blasto and welcome to the forum.

The move you're talking about can be found in the video by Jeff Imada......... it might be in one of his books too.

I try not to put what I consider people's "trade mark" moves on my site. You'll find a few cool things in his video that you won't find elsewhere. The finger snap opening comes to mind.

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Clay
www.balisongxtreme.com
Because......
getting 'em open
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I don't think calling someone gay is really a good idea on this forum. And at least use proper punctuation if you are going to try to be "cool" and call people gay.
 
I think Clay is right. It is the Jeff's throw, from the Advanced Balisong Manual Book.

You can see it on www.balisong.com, choose ManipulationTechniques on the pull down menu. Jeff labeled it Toss and Catch Opening

Cheers!

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Chris
"To use or not to use your Balisong - that is the question"
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mario givens:
well,your gay.

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In response to BaliLover:
... Mario should also watch his grammar and use the proper form of "you're."
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Yep, it's exactly the Toss & Catch Opening described in Imada's manual (I thought it was in the first part... I may be wrong), except you catch the tang pin. But the move is the same.

I discovered this variation (keeping the tang pin) some years ago, when I felt in love with Imada's T&C-O.
Actually I have a special knife for this throw (a small Herbertz) : it must be much better balanced than the Jag or BM, or I don't know... because I manage to toss&catch easily with it, and with my BM239, the knife never stays in the axis (it almost always twist ("bore" ???) in the air :-(( ).

On the other hand, when the throw starts with the knife half opened (after a ricochet...), it works perfectly with both knives.

You can also try this T&C-O but instead of catching it in a hammer grip, you catch the safe handle earlier, in a Ice Pick grip. It's quicker. Only half a turn in the air. Fun.

Guillaume

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Thanks everyone. Up until now, my little world of Bali has been only as large as myself. Nice to finally speak with people who know what the hell I'm talking about.

Mario, if you mean I'm well-dressed, well-spoken and have no problem getting along with ladies, then you're right. But if you're trying to hit on me, you're barking up the wrong tree.
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