Grim Ripper

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Anyone have any thoughts on Tops grim ripper.Vrs Wilson Tactical Push Knife?Im
debating the better of the 2. Any feedback would be welcomed
 
I very recently bought a Tops Scorpion tail, with the wood handle. I dropped it on a tile floor from the height of a table, say 3 feet or so. The point broke off, about 1/8 of an inch broke off right at the tip. Grim Ripper has same steel as the knife that broke on me. The last time anything like that happened to me was almost 15 years ago when I dropped a United Cutlery Push Dagger and the point broke. At this point I would say exercise caution with TOPS. I would look at cold steel for a push dagger. The TOPS is single edge. One of the advanatages of the push dagger is double edge for cutting tactics and to make doing a dojo style knife take away very difficult. I like push daggers. I decided against the tops due to single edge before the knife broke.I am looking at mercworx seraphim. It is a very costly knife. I posted to see if anyone had one to see how they liked it and got no takes, no it isn't a big seller. Wilson tactical makes some high end push daggers, not sure about them either. Benchmade has one, moderate price but the handle is a skeleton and I think this is going to causing twisting and turning issues in the hand if you hit somnething firm with it like bone or cartilage, not good. You want a grip that will not rotate. Cold steel has that grippy rubber stuff called Kraton which is sticky and absorbs shock. They are not costly. I would get the AUS8a steel ones. Cold steel also makes trainers in a way for the push dagger. Buy their cheap FGX ones and grind off edge and point or tape them with duct tape. If you do get a wilson or mercworx please post a review so we can see how you liked it.
 
Please do a review of some sort after you get it. Really like to get your take on it. Thanks.
 
Karambits in general kinda have flimsy points. I hAVE THE tOPS Scorpion as well. I think we have the same tastes in Knives Panama!
 
The best karambit I have was made by blade rigger few years back. Sturdy, big hole, double edge. I don't think the kerambit comes into its own unless duble edged. I have since used diamond stones to save the tops scorion tail, looks like a tato point now of a sort but sharp.
I think I remember tops when it was a one guy show about 10 years ago. Nice guy got some knives from him. Same steel, hard as heck to sharpen, never had a breakage before.
 
I would have to hold one but it is like a cellblock tool in a way to me. Jail weapons are mostly thrusters for stabbing. I would rather rather a cold steel that can slash and punch. Not sure how easy this design is going to be to get through a leather jacker or heavy coat. If you contact like bone with a cold steel punch dagger used to slash it is gonna hurt the sides of your fingers - a deficiency in design. If Spyderco comes out with a punch dagger we might have something. If you take cardboard cylinder packing material (sturdy) and slash (carefully) with your knives you get an idea of the shock that can be transmitted. Of course a limb will be padded with flesh and move under pushing force. Anyway when i did the cardboard cylinder thing I really appreciated which knives would be better in combat. The fixed blades and sturdy large (5" and up) folders win out. The 3.5" folders really sting when hitting the cardboard but again more than they would with a real limb and the small ones tend to want to jump out of the hand. Being in a serious struggle is a bad time to find out you can barely hang onto your knife when using it on a live opponent. The plastic knives transmitted way more shock than the metal. You might enjoy such a trail of your blades or maybe you have done such a thing. The push dagger can really be hurting on inside of fingers when slashing, but I can take three or four pains without losing functionality. I guess in an ideal world one would have an arkansas toothpick in one hand and a bowie in the other <smile>.
 
I would have to hold one but it is like a cellblock tool in a way to me. Jail weapons are mostly thrusters for stabbing. I would rather rather a cold steel that can slash and punch. Not sure how easy this design is going to be to get through a leather jacker or heavy coat. If you contact like bone with a cold steel punch dagger used to slash it is gonna hurt the sides of your fingers - a deficiency in design. If Spyderco comes out with a punch dagger we might have something. If you take cardboard cylinder packing material (sturdy) and slash (carefully) with your knives you get an idea of the shock that can be transmitted. Of course a limb will be padded with flesh and move under pushing force. Anyway when i did the cardboard cylinder thing I really appreciated which knives would be better in combat. The fixed blades and sturdy large (5" and up) folders win out. The 3.5" folders really sting when hitting the cardboard but again more than they would with a real limb and the small ones tend to want to jump out of the hand. Being in a serious struggle is a bad time to find out you can barely hang onto your knife when using it on a live opponent. The plastic knives transmitted way more shock than the metal. You might enjoy such a trail of your blades or maybe you have done such a thing. The push dagger can really be hurting on inside of fingers when slashing, but I can take three or four pains without losing functionality. I guess in an ideal world one would have an arkansas toothpick in one hand and a bowie in the other <smile>.

So the "hand shock" you experience is mainly a function of blade size? Wouldn't the handle design/material have anything to do with it?
For example:
my Subcom F stabs and slashes fairly well, and doesn't hurt my hand too much except for the jimping along the bottom (where you middle/ring fingers go) which can lead to abrasions in the long run. In my experience, metal handled folders tend to transmit the most shock.

I do agree about the CS Push Knives though - they should have covered up that area of the shaft with Kraton as well - but it's never been that big a deal to me. The discomfort is hardly noticeable.
 
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