Grinding Down Blade Length To Meet a Legal Limit

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I have 2 folders, a BM 705 which I hardly carry anymore and a BM 525 which is my EDC. Both are legal in Virginia where I live but not in the Federal building where I work which has a 2 1/2 inch blade length limit. I carry the 525 most of the time when I'm home and only carry a small slipjoint with me to work. Do you think it would be practical to take the 705 and grind the blade down to less than 2 1/2 inches? Could you use a Dremmel tool to do it? Thoughts?
 
I wouldn't do it to a $100.00 + knife. I would buy a less expensive knife with a 2/1/2 inch blade.

But that's just me, I not into modifying things.
 
The issue there is I'm a southpaw and at least the FRN dragonfly doesn't have a reversible clip. I think the stainless steel Dragonfly has a removable clip. I'm weighing my options to get a good legal EDC at my workplace including either buying a new knife (posted a while back on a Wegner Mouse Lite vs. SOG Blink). And I'm looking at grinding a BM I don't carry much anymore because I like the Axis. It's a shame BM doesn't make a sub 2.5 inch knife with an Axis lock. No matter.
 
Active Verb said:
The issue there is I'm a southpaw and at least the FRN dragonfly doesn't have a reversible clip. I think the stainless steel Dragonfly does. I'm weighing my options to get a good legal EDC at my workplace including either buying a new knife (posted a while back on a Wegner Mouse Lite vs. SOG Blink). And I'm looking at grinding a BM I don't carry much anymore because I like the Axis. It's a shame BM doesn't make a sub 2.5 inch knife with an Axis lock. No matter.

I would talk to a couple bladesmiths from the maker's area, and see if any of them would be willing to modify it for a small fee, and then go that route.

They would be able to regrind it so that it doesn't lose it's temper, do a very professional looking job, and have it still have a very usable blade shape. I would have no problem modifying a cheap knife myself, but I'd want someone with experience to play with my expensive ones that I want to still look good afterward.
 
I agree however that Benchmade should have at least a couple of 2.5" bladed knives with an Axis lock.
 
You have a perfect opportunity here to buy yourself another knife. Do it! That way you'll have a nice new one for work and you can carry the 705 during the weekend.
 
What Federal building allows for an employee/ visitor to carry a knife in their facility?

N.
 
I've done this for knife lovers that live within mid town cities like Chicago where although the legal limit in Illinois is 3" the mid town limit is 2.5".

I can't recall all the knives I did this to. One was a Native, and another was a Centefonte 3. Still another was a BenchMade but I dont' recall much about it except it had a D2 blade, and I've probably done four or five others of various models. It is a case by case basis. Some don't look that great after the mod and some look fine.

Just be careful not to heat up the blade. The closer you grind toward the tip where the metal is thin you run the risk of hurting the edge keeping ability of the blade. Keep it cool by dipping in cold water often and be patient, let the grinder or belt do the work without putting undue pressure on the blade. Pressure equals more heat.

STR
 
As I recently aquired a federal employment opportunity, what is the regulation?

I've looked about, but haven't gotten the definitive answer I desire.

Oh, yeah, how about the Dodo?
 
Nakano 2 said:
What Federal building allows for an employee/ visitor to carry a knife in their facility?

N.

The one I work in allows you to carry a blade as long as it's 2.5 inches or smaller according to the regs. But you never know how the Protective Officers will take it if they find the knife, It all depends on the Officer. I wouldn't take a chance if I had to go through a metal detector.

:D
 
Chax knives can do just about any type modification you want on folders or fixed blades. I haven't personally had anything done by Chax but I've seen a lot of positive feedback about them on various knife message boards. check out their "customized jobs" section-they do a lot of work on Benchmades.

http://chaxknives.com/about.html
 
Just a thought, try a Camillus Sizzle. 2.5" blade and a reversable clip. You can disable the robo feature if you need to.
 
personally, i would not ruin a benchmade. i own a 705 which i edc.a second one nib that i would never part with.
just curious, what the heck are you cutting in a federal building that a sak can't handle?
 
Active Verb, if you want to do it with a Dremel, here's my method.

Figure out a design that will get you under 2.5", that you can live with the looks of, that involves cutting one new line from the spine to the edge. The line can be very shallow and make the new blade look the the Turkish Clip pattern from a trapper, be very steep and make the blade look a lot like a wharncliffe, or be inbetween, which will look kind of Bowie-ish.

Lay that line out on the blade - scribe it, Sharpie it, use layout blue - whatever you've got. Scribed is best, if you can, and scribed on layout fluid is the very best.

Now put a cut-off wheel on your Dremel. You can use one of the big, thick reinforced ones if you want, but the regular cheap little thin ones will cut better and cooler. The thin ones may break if you don't have the hang of babying them, but they're cheap as hell - what, about five bucks for a tube of fifty?

Here's one the best parts about doing with a cut-off wheel. It's easy to rig up a setup that will make it almost impossible to mess up your temper.

If you were thinking of doing this yourself, I'm guessing you've got a shop space of some kind that you can make a mess in. Good, because you will. :D

Clamp the blade down onto a scrap of wood (or whatever - something long enough you can clamp it to your bench or table or workmate) with a layer of something absorbent and heat friendly under it. An old washcloth or shop towel, a really old cotton sock, or even just six or eight layers of paper towel. Get a container of water and keep it nearby.

This will all be easier if you've popped the blade out and removed the thumbstuds, but you can do it without disassembly if you want.

Make sure you can see your marked line, and that your clamp or clamps won't interfere with where you'll have the Dremel as you cut. Now pour a cup or so of water on your assembly - you want to completely soak that absorbent layer.

That's it. Start cutting - cutting one long shallow line then going back and cutting back and forth until you get through will tend to break less cutoff wheels than just starting at one side and cutting your way across (all the way through) in one long cut, but both work.

To clean up the surface of your new spine, the sanding bands on expanding rubber drums work MUCH better than the mounted hard stones.

You can absolutely do it yourself, for free (well, the cost of abrasives :) ) and get it just the way you want it.

The only real problem is, once you've done this sort of thing once, you start wanting to do it again, then you want more tools, then you want to start making your own knives, and then, well, you're lost. ;)

I encourage you to think about doing this on your own (or with a buddy), it will give you a new appreciation for how hard - and how easy - it is to tweak a knife and make it your own.
 
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Nakano 2 said:
What Federal building allows for an employee/ visitor to carry a knife in their facility?

Richard H. Poff Federal Building in Roanoke, VA. At least for employees; not sure about visitors.

At some Federal buildings, GSA will cite 41 CFR § 102-74.440 to support the proposition that any and all sharp objects are prohibited. That's BS. 41 CFR § 102-74.440 merely states that Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities. The "Federal law" that 41 CFR § 102-74.440 is refering to is 18 U.S.C. § 930, which specifically states that the term "dangerous weapon" . . . "does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length."

The Spyderco Poliwog is a great knife with a less than 2 1/2 inch blade and a full-size feel.
 
Good advice from Nick Hyle if you choose to go ahead. I have shortened a few blades (and fixed up a few inadvertently-shortened blades), and my method is a variation on Nick's. Rather than cutting all the way through with the Dremel cutoff wheel, score the blade deeply along the scribed line on both sides. Then clamp the blade in a vise with the vise jaw along the scored line and the tip (the part you don't want) sticking out. A good rap with a hammer will break off the tip. Clean up with a belt sander, file, sandpaper, or whatever you like.

You can also make your own Olfa blades this way.;)

With the Dremel wheels, WEAR EYE PROTECTION whatever you do. These little beggars fly apart with no warning and send jagged little pieces in all directions at high speed.
 
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