Grinding the Swedge??

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Could someone please explain how they grind swedges??? I've tried it across the wheel and inline with the wheel but just haven't gotten it done as right as I'd like to. Thanks!! Michael

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L6;

Yeah; What Bruce said!

Please enlighten the unenlightened
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Is it the upper ground (but usually unsharpened) part of the blade?

All the Best

Dileas Gu Brath
 
Mike, i have tried grind swedges/swages whatever in my blades, but never liked the results either. I guess with a lot of practice it would work, but for some reason it is much easier and more conrollable to simply file them. Use a big file, finish up draw filing and they go in(off?) nice and flat.
 
L6- i am in the same boat so if anyone can shed some light on the subject that would be great... however i think the answer is just practice, practice, practice. and messing up a bunch of blades or scrap metal....
 
Oh Thats what you are talking about. I grind em just like the cutting edge but on the back with less angle. To make them match try using a file and then a stone, finally hand sand, Bruce
 
Ohhhh...

Well, on drop points (and other blades where the swedge is convex), I do the main grind with a disc sander, then simply clean up with a file... A concave swedge, say, on a clip point, requires a different approach, and I usually start with a few passes on my bench grinder (though I always end up with a sloppy grind) and clean up with a file and lots of sandpaper.
 
Thanks for the clarification!!

I find that a lot of the older hunters that I've seen are almost 90 degrees at the top of the blade but in recent times the angle has been reduced to almost the same angle as the primary bevel of the main blade. I guess that the tighter angle will reduce more weight and increase the likelihood that it is to be sharpened??

All the Best

Dileas Gu Brath

 
Files and sandpaper, you guys actually use those things????
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I think I found my problem. I have a tendency to try to get them perfect on my grinder without so much as a thought of whackin em with a file. Thanks guys!!



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Always think of your fellow knife makers as partners in the search for the perfect blade, not as people trying to compete with you and your work!http://www.nebsnow.com/L6steel
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Hey L6, Just center line the back edge and start the grind at about 45 degres to the line and then just start grinding down the blade until you get the width of grind you want,then start eyeballing down the blade from the point until both sides are even or you can measure from the wdge up.remember to do this after heat treat,this will reduce the chance of warpedge.then you can plunge cut your shoulders.A slower speed on the grinder also helps.Also try doing it on a flat plattten.Its just like doing the main grinds only at a steaper angle.
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Bruce

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[This message has been edited by beknives (edited 07-27-2000).]
 
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