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Mi.Mike

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Why do I have to spend $325 on a Sebenza in order to get a well made knife.Call me crazy but I think a knife in the $100 range should be of very good quailty.This doesn't seem to be the case! Most in this range have Q.A.problems.Are the makers trying to make too much profit?Are the workers un-caring due to low pay and/or the current contentious attitude of most companys? Most of us don't seem to expect much for a hundred bucks.We expect Q.A.problems in this range,WHY! All I want is someone to start a knife company that delivers more than hype and fancy ads.All I need is great $100 knife that I know won't have to be returned.Theses companys need to have a great product rather than a great repair policy!.....I feel better now.
 
Get a knife by John Greco. Plain, nice lines, no fit/finish problems, and incredibly strong. He is also committed to the idea of the under-$100 knife.
 
MiMike

You can get a very nice knife for $50.00. Spyderco endura or delica come to mind. There are many others.

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Roger Blake
 
Mike,you are speaking in very general terms.Could you be a bit more specific as to which $100 knives you feel are not up to par?Personally,I have many knives in this price range that more then meet my expectations.My 440v Military was flawless when I opened the box and continues to provide good service today.Also I have a CRKT M-16-04 for $50 that compares favorably to knives that cost twice the price.You can find bad examples of anything,but by and large,IMO,factory knives are as good as they`ve ever been.
 
I'm going to play the devils advocate here. The knife industry is a bussiness. Some companies find their levels of QC "acceptable." How much more are you willing to pay to make sure every single knife out of the factory is perfect? I think the answer is $325 for a Sebenza.

Many of us can't afford to spend that much. I have found Spyderco to offer excellent quality products at a fairly reasonable price.

The only thing that will change the price of a product either the demand or the quantity supplied. If the demand for junk knives goes down, they will either lower their prices, fix their problems, or go out of bussiness.

I think the rule of thumb is you get what you pay for. If you buy a $325 Sebenza, you get one of the best products on the market, with very little chance of a lemon. If you buy (for example) a $115 Spyderco, you will get a good product, and more dollar value (IMHO). Compare knives to watches. You can get a Rolex or a Timex, one is nicer than the other, but they both tell time.

~Mitch
 
As previously stated, there are several good knives on the market for less than $100.00. The exception is that some knives are worth $300.00 and more...that is why we pay.
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It seems like you are not necessarily comparing "good" and "bad" products, but handmade and production. A custom knife is almost always going to be significantly more costly than a similar production piece. There is nothing wrong with many of the production knives out. Many of the handmades (yes, I know that the Sebenza has been called custom, production, and everything in between) are better looking, etc. There is more attention to detail, and the fit and finish will be a little (sometimes a lot) better than production knives. I won't be buying a custom knife for quite a while, though I certainly do plan on doing so eventually.

Howie
 
Yaaaa!!

...and they charge to much for those Mercedes Benz cars to! It doesn't do much more than a new Neon...

Ok, that might be a bit sarcastic, but it's the same thing. I assume that you are talking about folding knives in your case; and there are some very good products in the price range you mention (as afforable to you). In fact I'm working on a design as we speak that should incorporate all the high tech, quality materials, fit and finish, in the price range you mention.

The thing that you may not understand is that it costs money, some pretty big money, to run high tech machine shops. I'm sure that Chris Reeves and his gang aren't really intertested in working for third world wages either. Have you looked at the cost of some of the equipment? Good CNC's run $50K++. Shop overhead, etc. etc. etc.

Everytime someone handles a product the cost goes up...sure you could use high tech, electronic sight machine, but then again, it costs mo'money...

It's kinda like the old question...who do they build big houses for?

They build them for people that can afford them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dis. you, (I'm pretty much in the same boat), but most people don't understand value. It's like tools, always buy the best you can afford because if you don't, you always end up with stuff that doesn't work or doesn't last etc.

I remember this older Polish woman telling me once that they were to poor to by cheap. She understood the value of quality...it lasts.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Darren


 
We live in a system of classes, whether you call it Democracy (Representative Republic) or Communism, the basic classes of people are the same

Shamefully Rich
Rich
Middle
Lower Middle
Poor
Shamefully Poor

Came up with that on my own, not technically correct probably, but effective to demonstrate why some things are made nicer than others. They appeal to different markets within the classes. It's all economics, I believe.

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Brandon

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$100 Bucks? Why you can get a very good folding knife for $10. An Opinel, will do everything a knife is supposed to do for around $10, now it might not be what you're looking for and it probably won't impress your friends, but it's a good knife.
 
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