griptilian blade steels

freq18hz

freq18hz

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I'm sure this has been asked before but:

I have a standard BK coated combo edge griptilian. It resides in my hiking pack, as my main emergency knife. I also carry a small folder on me, and I have an RSK MK5 in my pocket survival pack. I've been considering upgrading to a Ritter griptilian, possibly the latest high carbon version, or the Fallkniven F1, RAT Izula.

My question is:

What real world, tangible difference am I going to see between the CM154, S30V, and the new high speed M4 steels? Do I really not want a serrated edge to saw with in an emergency, given field sharpening might not be an option? Keep in mind, this will never be used except in an emergency.

-Freq
 
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freq18hz said:
I'm sure this has been asked before but:

I have a standard BK coated combo edge griptilian. It resides in my hiking pack, as my main emergency knife. I also carry a small folder on me, and I have an RSK MK5 in my pocket survival pack. I've been considering upgrading to a Ritter griptilian, possibly the latest high carbon version. My question is:

What real world, tangible difference am I going to see between the CM154, S30V, and the new high speed M4 steels? Do I really not want a serrated edge to saw with in an emergency, given field sharpening might not be an option? Keep in mind, this will never be used except in an emergency.

-Freq
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For your use, I'd get a Byrd Wings. They have two blades, one plain and one fully serrated. That is what I'd want in an emergency. Leatherman Wave has the same choice of blades as the Wings if you want more tools. A fully serrated edge "saws" a lot better than just an inch or two of serrations will.
 
Those are all "good", proven steel and will get you out of a jam without a doubt. Steel snobs will always gravitate towards what is perceived as the best, but unless you are planning on cutting an airplane in half you'll be good to go with any of them.
 
freq18hz said:
I'm sure this has been asked before but:

I have a standard BK coated combo edge griptilian. It resides in my hiking pack, as my main emergency knife. I also carry a small folder on me, and I have an RSK MK5 in my pocket survival pack. I've been considering upgrading to a Ritter griptilian, possibly the latest high carbon version. My question is:

What real world, tangible difference am I going to see between the CM154, S30V, and the new high speed M4 steels? Do I really not want a serrated edge to saw with in an emergency, given field sharpening might not be an option? Keep in mind, this will never be used except in an emergency.

-Freq
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154CM and s30v are close in preformance, s30v will hold an adge longer but is very brittle on the grips (lots of chipping reports) 154cm is upgraded 440c its a tough steel thats holds a great edge.............. no M4 is in a class all its own it will by far outpreform both in edge holding while being stronger and tougher, but it WILL rust but only if you dont take care of it so TAKE CARE OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!
if you do m4 is one of the best steels there is.
 
I think for most purposes there is little real difference in 154cm and S30v. Yes S30V will retain an edge longer, but I sharpen my knives so often it comes out in the wash. I have to touch up S30V less often, if that makes any sense. M4 - no experience with it, and not worth it to dish out the cash for me these days, I am much more into the design of a blade than the steel these days. If I were you, my emergency blade would be a Becker BK11 or something similar, such as an Izula. Or go Mora.
 
Actually I JUST saw the Izula and I am highly interested.

Can anyone comment on experience with this knife? It seems maybe a bit small? Since its not a full tang how strong is that going to be compared to something like a Ritter grip or a fixed blade Ritter/Fallkniven. Seems like for the size, a mini grip is about as good?

perhaps I need to start a different thread?


-Freq
 
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s30v is worth it over 154cm if the price is close enough. in the griptilians they are not.

M4 is crazy awesome, can hold a very thin edge profile and take a great edge.
 
M4 is the best, but it depends on how hard it is. for a small folder M4 could go as high as 65 Rc but most manufacturers will only harden it to about 62. Kinda a waste if you ask me
 
freq18hz said:
Actually I JUST saw the Izula and I am highly interested.

Can anyone comment on experience with this knife? It seems maybe a bit small? Since its not a full tang how strong is that going to be compared to something like a Ritter grip or a fixed blade Ritter/Fallkniven. Seems like for the size, a mini grip is about as good?

perhaps I need to start a different thread?


-Freq
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Type:
Izula site:bladeforums.com
in Google and you will literally find a thousand threads mentioning that knife. ;)
 
Izula is full tang, lots of blades are skeletonized and it won't effect strength at all.
 
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