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Grizzly -vs- .454

Wow, that's good reaction time combined with good luck!

I have a Freedom Arms 454 and a custom revolver in 500 Linebaugh. I still carry either a rifle or shotgun with slugs in AK brown bear country.

DancesWithKnives
 
i think id preffer a different location ;) but honestly, if it was a long gun, id rather it wasnt bolt action, just in case that first shot doesn't work
 
12gauge...pump. takes care of anything on this planet.
 
Good for him. I have a Casull also, and it's very close to being a hand held .45-70. I'd rather have a Marlin Guide gun, but the Casull will definitely anchor a brown with the correct shot placement.
 
I carry a WWG customized Guide Gun these days, previously it was an 870 with sabot slugs. I've always been of the mindset that any handgun round is insufficient to stop a charging brownie. Evidently I was wrong-ish. Do you think that the .454 could consistently deliver this degree of effect, or was it just a damned lucky hit? I do know a gentleman who instantly killed a large brown with a single shot, center of mass with a .45 Colt, but that bear was standing up investigating, while the one in this story was charging.
 
I have a 50 Beowulf upper for my AR-15. 16 inch barrel, 10 round magazine,45-70 ballistics. Bullet weights from 300 to 600 grains. I hear it's becoming quite popular in Alaska.
Allan
 
gunknifenut said:
12gauge...pump. takes care of anything on this planet.
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What about rhinos, hippos, cape buffalos, elephants, and lions?

If they weren't so damn expensive, a nice double rifle in .375 Holland and Holland would be really effective bear medicine.
 
The luckiest bear dispatch I've ever heard of is a woman up in Hungry Horse that heard a commotion in her chicken coop, went out to investigate with a .410 shotgun. It turned out to be a sow black bear, she had just enough time to instinctively lift the gun and fire, and the bear had already closed on her, but her shot just so happened to go right up that bear's nose and killed it instantly.
 
SurviveAl said:
I have a 50 Beowulf upper for my AR-15. 16 inch barrel, 10 round magazine,45-70 ballistics. Bullet weights from 300 to 600 grains. I hear it's becoming quite popular in Alaska.
Allan
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That Beowulf is a butt-kickin' round. Also kicks the crap out of my shoulder. I like that .45-70 better.

I was out fishing today and forgot my pepper spray. I remembered that I left it at home when I saw the big track in the sand on the shore of the river....
 
Just pull out your Busse, there is nothing that can stand against the battle mistress.
 
Rotte said:

What if you don't have a NMFBM? :eek::(:barf:
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Aw... who needs that when you have the venerable MORA! :rolleyes: It will do anything. ;) :p

I'm thinking this guy was pretty lucky. The .454 did it's job because he did his and shot accurately. I'd still feel much better with a long gun in such a circumstance. :thumbup:
 
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"Came with zero warning," Brush said. "No woof, no popping of the teeth, no standing up, nothing like what you think."

"Total luck shot," he said.

That about sums it up. He's lucky he's alive.

I'm sure this won't be very popular with most but we should MAKE bears afraid of humans everywhere. (Just as the gentleman in the article suggested.

And to allow a human to backpack in bear country but not allow them to carry a firearm is stupid. Our guns laws make us prey to animals and victims of crime.
 
Yes, good reactions combined with good luck. If I were really, really worried I'd leave my 590 Mariner at home and drag from the safe a 470NE double rifle. I would need to be into that class of rifle before I started to feel somewhat better about stopping power at close range. I also like the WWG lever action rifle in 50 Alaskan, even though it doesn't have the punch of a 470NE.

For shotgun slugs, I've been impressed with www.dixieslugs.com.

DancesWithKnives
 
H2H907 said:
I carry a WWG customized Guide Gun these days, previously it was an 870 with sabot slugs. I've always been of the mindset that any handgun round is insufficient to stop a charging brownie. Evidently I was wrong-ish. Do you think that the .454 could consistently deliver this degree of effect, or was it just a damned lucky hit? I do know a gentleman who instantly killed a large brown with a single shot, center of mass with a .45 Colt, but that bear was standing up investigating, while the one in this story was charging.
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I don't think ANY round could deliver this kind of performance reliably, long arm or pistol. Shot placement is crucial, and this one was lucky. Take a look at the charts, though, and the Casull is about 200 fps slower than the .45-70. Close enough for me.

But I would have to admit, for a charging grizzly, a 50 BMG would be very comforting.... :D
 
Soldatna? Holy Crap! :eek:

I spent three summers living in Soldatna, AK, working a clean-up project in the local Kenai National Wildlife Refuge. Beautiful place. Spent a lot of time in the local bush, both at work and for recreation. I saw a number of brown (grizzly) bears while I was there, and at work the field crew always included one person with a rifle and when on my own I carried a S&W .44mag, but luckily I never had to face a charging bear.
 
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