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Gryphon M10 or Spyderco Perrin?
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I haven't handled the Perrin, so please don't take this as a negative post regarding it, but I absolutely love the M10. It's a great little self-defense blade and the Tek-Lok sheath is quite versatile. (You can buy a variety of other rigs for it from Bob at Survival Sheath, too -- he's the one who makes the sheaths that come with the knife from the factory.)
Article Featuring the M10 and Other Survival Sheath Products
Article Featuring the M10 and Other Survival Sheath Products
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I am not crazy about the style of the Perrin. To me, it looks too much like a kitchen knife. The Gryphon M10, however, is simply cool beyond cool. I regret selling mine, and will find another someday. Might even have a custom version made up. Like Phil said, it is the right size and carries well just about anyway you decide to carry it. I do like the VG10 steel on the Perrin better though.
Maybe we can talk them into making the Gryphon M10 with VG10 steel?
Maybe we can talk them into making the Gryphon M10 with VG10 steel?
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There's nothing wrong, to me, with a knife that looks and handles like a kitchen knife, as long as it's a good kitchen knife. I'm testing a Temperance and trainer set from Spyderco right now for a future article, and I really like the knife. The Temperance really does look like something you could use in the kitchen, too, but it has a very pleasant heft and works very well.
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And on the other side of the spectrum having never handled the Gryphon but being a big fan of the Perrin I will present my case. Fred Perrins work is subtle in a lot of cases as with the street bowie. It's not big as the name bowie would lead you to believe. It's not scary looking, it doesn't scream SD blade I'm sorry the Gryphon looks about as utilitarian as an M16. The Perrin is simple and eloquent I think. It may look like a kitchen knife, (can you honestly look at the temperance and not say the same thing?) but put it in your hand and you'll figure out real quick this is a serious blade. Perrin designed it for a few different things as I understand it. It was made to be a good companion on the streets, it is light and easy to conceal. And it was made to be a very servicible field knife. I have put several miles on mine and it works quite nicely as an outdoors knife. This critter is a fighter too.
The Perrin is one of my primary carry knives. The only complaint I had with it is the sheath rattles too much for my liking. It seems to hold the blade securely but it makes a good bit of noise at the same time. I feel the Perrin bridges the gap between utility and SD perfectly. It does not scream "I'm made to hurt people" nor does it yell "pound me through a brick wall I can take it" It will perform well in both roles and the way I see it is if you ever get copstopped it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to explain than the Gryphon boot knife which let's be honest here does Scream "BOOT KNIFE" even to the un-educated.
So in short, my vote is for the Perrin.
The Perrin is one of my primary carry knives. The only complaint I had with it is the sheath rattles too much for my liking. It seems to hold the blade securely but it makes a good bit of noise at the same time. I feel the Perrin bridges the gap between utility and SD perfectly. It does not scream "I'm made to hurt people" nor does it yell "pound me through a brick wall I can take it" It will perform well in both roles and the way I see it is if you ever get copstopped it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to explain than the Gryphon boot knife which let's be honest here does Scream "BOOT KNIFE" even to the un-educated.
So in short, my vote is for the Perrin.
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Although I have a Spydie Perrin (and I REALLY like that knife), I would have to choose the M-10, as it's alot like my FAVORITE knife, the Camillus CUDA CQB-1 (only smaller).
Edited...Oops...I have the Spyderco Temperance, not a Perrin, BUT I'd still pick the M-10.
Edited...Oops...I have the Spyderco Temperance, not a Perrin, BUT I'd still pick the M-10.
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It sure is. Zytel handles and AUS-8 for a suggested reatil of $179
Even at discount dealers it is too expensive.
If I liked the looks of the Gryphon I would go for a Camillus CQB-2, where at least you get Micarta and ATS-34
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I use the Gryphon. I was going to grab a Camillus when I noticed that the M10 is a little lighter. Since I carry mine all the time I decided to fork over the extra $$ for the lighter weight knife (you can get the M10 from Cutleryshoppe.com for 125 BTW). In light of my own argument however the Perrin is lighter still and may be more comfortable to you, I believe that was one of Fred Perrin's big concerns when designing the knife.
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I have the M-10 and like it and may even like the Camillus version better (both Bob Terzuola designs) but after handling the Perrin, it gets my vote due to the security and comfort of the handle and how it more than likely handles impact shock better than the M-10 or CQB by Camillus. I have not made the move to get one, though.
As regards the boot knife comparison, to a cop, a knife is a knife. Forget about nomenclature that mostly forum members care about. Perrin has a longer blade, besides.
You can get a Perrin from Mike Sastre, who sells the package including one of his superior sheaths. (no rattle) and it can be carried IWB for appendix, straight up or draw point carries.
As regards the boot knife comparison, to a cop, a knife is a knife. Forget about nomenclature that mostly forum members care about. Perrin has a longer blade, besides.
You can get a Perrin from Mike Sastre, who sells the package including one of his superior sheaths. (no rattle) and it can be carried IWB for appendix, straight up or draw point carries.
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Well, both are pretty darn good, the differences are probably too small to make a difference in any but the most practiced hands. But . . . the Perrin has a longer (5") blade, of full-flat-ground VG10 that cuts like a demon. It does not have a top guard, so it doesn't restrict thumb placement the way the Gryphon does (which may or may not be a factor, depending on your preferred SD grip). I honestly cannot imagine how the 1/2-tang could be a liability in a SD situation, it ain't coming loose that's for sure. The grip is excellent, either forward or reverse, it feels slightly more secure than the Gryphon. The tip is much more acute on the Perrin, for better penetration. The sheath on my Perrin does not rattle. And it's very light. And it's maybe $100, cheaper than the Gryphon.
That said, the Gryphon looks crazy cool, don't it?!
That said, the Gryphon looks crazy cool, don't it?!
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I personally can't wait to get an Outdoor Edge Neil Blackwood designed hybrid. I have the custom version and it is one mean knife. The pics of the production version look good as well.
Don't let the "hunter" scare you off. This knife is all business.
Don't let the "hunter" scare you off. This knife is all business.
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RIP Dann, you were a good guy.
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...And all this time I thought that we only hijack threads in "Whine & Cheese"....
How about that funnel cake?...Yum, Yum....
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Originally posted by Boink
Looks mighty nice, but that isn't what's being discussed.
When are those going to be available?
I apolgize for getting off track.
Of the two knives being discussed I would go with the Perrin. More bang for the buck, very versatile design, and the handle is not going to come off.
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I had the Camillus CQB2, but I traded it off because the handle was way to small. There is a gun and knife show upstate this weekend, and I hope to be able to handle both the Perrin and the Gryphon. Thank you for all of the input. For any of you guys in the NY or NJ area that are intereseted in the show this weekend, it is at the Orange County fairgrounds in Middletown, NY.
Perrin is my preference.
Nice looking tactical kitchen knife.
K knives look that way for a reason, ideal ergonomics for a working knife.
Having used combat knives for food prep gotta say a tactical kitchen knife is the way to go!
My favorite remains the Siegle clip point that hides in dark places.
Gryphon looks like a good boot knife but thats a pretty limited design.
I confess I haven't held either.....but I have near infallible instinct for this sort of thing.
CQB2 is too small. CQB1 is one of my favorites but a little large to be carried all the time. Plus the kichen chores are a little awkward with it.
The Spyderco Moran seems like it could be thrown into the mix here too.
Im pretty impressed with Spyderco these days.
Nice looking tactical kitchen knife.
K knives look that way for a reason, ideal ergonomics for a working knife.
Having used combat knives for food prep gotta say a tactical kitchen knife is the way to go!
My favorite remains the Siegle clip point that hides in dark places.
Gryphon looks like a good boot knife but thats a pretty limited design.
I confess I haven't held either.....but I have near infallible instinct for this sort of thing.
CQB2 is too small. CQB1 is one of my favorites but a little large to be carried all the time. Plus the kichen chores are a little awkward with it.
The Spyderco Moran seems like it could be thrown into the mix here too.
Im pretty impressed with Spyderco these days.
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There are quit a few decent dealers at the Gun and Knife show in Orange County. Here is a link to one of the dealers that is there http://www.skylandscutlery.com/ They are really nice people and their prices aren't bad either. I don't know the names of the other dealers, but I saw alot of custom knives there including Polkowskis and Crawfords. There were alot of very ornate customs also, along with Striders and all of the other high end productions.