Gun and knife related

wow, great outcome! possibly gave gone in a bad direction if nor for the life saving tools.
 
I read that last night and have to admit, those people are heros - pure and simple. I'm not 100% sure I could mimic their heroics but I am prepared like they are 24x7 . . .
 
I read this earlier when a friend shared it with me. The knife I carry has a glass breaker. I would've tried using that first before shooting the glass out. I guess the responder's knife didn't have a glass breaker.
 
I have been through that Canyon so many times! That water is COLD, even in warm weather. Super cold this time of year.

The one question I had was about shooting the window out. I guess it must have been underwater, and he could not generate enough force to smash it out? Lots of rocks about!

I would just be worried about shooting the window out and hitting some one's baby!

So glad this turned out well!

I had an old girl friend who crashed in that canyon, and ended up way off the road, upside down, until some one rescued her! She could not kick the window's out.
 
Saw that this morning on the news and was WOWed. A positive news story including a gun for once. Very nice save though very glad all ended well.
 
My only problem with this story is that the Firearms Instructor used his gun to shoot out the window, only to reach in and find no-one. If we look at Jeff Coopers 4 rules of gun safety, we find he may have violated the 4th rule, which states: "Be sure of your target and what is beyond it."

While bringing up this concept with others, I understand that many of us would most likely be happy to break the rules if it meant saving a life. More accurately I should say, we would scoff at the concept of someone hindering the life safety of another, simply because someone was strictly following a set protocols.

Anyways, while I applaud the individual in question who "never leaves the house without a gun, a knife and a flashlight" I am still perplexed by the constant ideology that guns save the day, since more time and money are dedicated to their use and training, and a knife more or less happens to be something added to ones pocket. While yes, I am not familiar with the individuals training mantra, the fact that he shot the window out seems to be an extreme measure, something that easily could have been avoided had he taken the time to understand that his knife could have very likely performed the same task, without the discharge of a firearm.

Yes, I am a gun owner. Yes, I applaud the NRA's effort to support KnifeRights.org and their fighting to continue our passion. However, I wish there was a stronger push among citizens of this country not to arm themselves to the teeth in the extreme of firearms, but to start with a simple basic tool whose concept we all use on a daily basis: the ability to separate things by means of cutting. By encouraging such an effort, we may very well see that glass breakers would become almost common among most knives, the way the picatinny rail system has become so common place on firearms themselves.

In the end, it is a wonderful story. And we should all take example on one mans ability to stand up, along with his fellow community members, who decided not to wait for someone else to fix a problem, but to step in themselves, in hopes of saving a life or more.
 
David_Parker03 said:
My only problem with this story is that the Firearms Instructor used his gun to shoot out the window, only to reach in and find no-one. If we look at Jeff Coopers 4 rules of gun safety, we find he may have violated the 4th rule, which states: "Be sure of your target and what is beyond it."
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That's exactly what I was getting at in my above reply.
 
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