Gun Safety?

tsk, tsk....all guns are always loaded.......never allow the muzzle to cover anything you're not ready to destroy........never place your finger in the trigger guard until ready to fire.....

at least the first two rules were broken, probably the third, too. Glad he's okay, the big bonehead.
 
Geez, that's funny. :)

He had to have violated several of the safety rules to shoot himself, namely:
Treating the weapon as though loaded;
Not covering anything with the weapon one is not willing to shoot;
Not pulling the trigger or inserting a finger into the trigger guard until ready to fire.

John
 
Does anyone else think there are 2 other strange details here?

He was demonstrating gun safety on a boatramp.....at 11pm??!
 
mauirob3 said:
Does anyone else think there are 2 other strange details here?

He was demonstrating gun safety on a boatramp.....at 11pm??!

I meet guys like that all the time. "It's an unfortunate accident," Toumey said. "I've always been very, very safe." :rolleyes:

We have a surgeon in town who lives down the street from me. In the three years he's been here' he has crashed two airplanes, been cited for reckless operation of his boat, and his dogs once broke down his front door and chased a pedestrian down the street onto the elementary school playground.

Education does not always equate to intelligence.
 
In high school shop class we had an instructor who lost three fingers demonstrating the safety features of a table saw.

Our common greeting to him was "Give me two (instead of five)." Luckily he had a great sense of humor.

Irony sucks
 
over-confidence is a liability, not an assett.
 
My friend was taking a gun safety class from an NRA trained instructor. Here in WV that's all you need to get a concealed permit.

Anyway she said at one point he was doing something and rather than leaving the gun cocked he just pointed it at the floor and pulled the trigger-

...and shot a hole in the floor ;)

Now when I was a kid I was taught NEVER to dry fire a gun. In fact my favorite gun shop had a sign back then that said $25 for the first click, $50, for the second, and so on. This was because some yahoo had brought a gun in for a trade and dry fired it but it wasn't dry and missed the owner by about 12 inches (his head). I still never dry fire.

The shame of the whole incident mentioned is that now it is on the news and is yet another news item that shifts the public perception regarding gun owners.

As gun owners we all have to remember the crosshairs are on us. If screw up or improperly use guns what we do will not only be used against us, but against the whole firearms community. A compainion piece to this was that the assault weapons makers are gearing up to produce stuff to convert post ban guns to pre ban. I think the assault weapons ban is fluff, and I can understand the motivation to make money, but with the whole thing so fresh I think that the manufacturer would have been way ahead to wait a year after it expired and then gradually market such stuff. Penny wise and pound foolish in my opinion.
 
Years ago I was in a gun shop, looking at a nice blue Browning BDA in .45 ACP. (This gun later went on to become the equivalent of the SIG P220, for those of you who have that model.)

The gun shop owner was a real arrogant know-it-all SOB who eventually went out of business (thankfully) because he alienated just about everyone who walked in the door by competing with them about guns. Wouldn't have mattered if Elmer Keith and Jeff Cooper had walked into his shop arm in arm, he knew more than both of them put together. Not to mention he was as crooked as a dogs hind leg, as my Daddy used to say. (My wife went in to his shop once to buy me a Ruger .44 carbine as a surprise Christmas present, and he charged her over $700 for the $375 rifle at the time, as she had no idea what was a fair price; she just knew that I had gone to him in the past as he was the only dealer in town for a while, so trusted him. Once I found out what she had paid he and I had a talk leading to a refund. What an ass*&^%!)

Anyway, in this case, he had the BDA on consignment and it was still sitting in the holster the seller had been carrying it in. The pistol still had a full magazine in the well and one up the spout. To unload the gun so I could look at it, he racked the slide, ejecting the chambered round and removed the magazine. I told him that he had done the sequence backwards and had in reality just loaded the pistol, and he told me I didn't know what I was talking about. He actually _pointed_ the gun at me and said that it was unloaded and he could show me by pulling the trigger! After getting up off the floor I told Mr. Expert that yes I was just an ignorant podunk when it came to guns compared to him, so why not back up his claim by shooting (dry firing he insisted) at his favorite moose trophy hanging on the wall?

Well, dead-eye dickly proceeded to blow the snout off his big moose head, and while I was laughing my ass off he told me and my friend to get out and not come back! :D

Hilarious. I saw this menace to society a few years later at a gun show actually signing up hapless students for his CCW training classes, and stood around making moose nose jokes until he looked ready to explode. He ended up moving to Florida and setting up shop there.

Just goes to show you that you have to watch everyone for gun safety issues. BTW, the biggest group of folks that have AD's (accidental discharges) are police officers!

Regards,

Norm
 
Svashtar said:
Years ago I was in a gun shop, looking at a nice blue Browning BDA in .45 ACP. (This gun later went on to become the equivalent of the SIG P220, for those of you who have that model.)

The gun shop owner was a real arrogant know-it-all SOB who eventually went out of business (thankfully) because he alienated just about everyone who walked in the door by competing with them about guns. Wouldn't have mattered if Elmer Keith and Jeff Cooper had walked into his shop arm in arm, he knew more than both of them put together. Not to mention he was as crooked as a dogs hind leg, as my Daddy used to say. (My wife went in to his shop once to buy me a Ruger .44 carbine as a surprise Christmas present, and he charged her over $700 for the $375 rifle at the time, as she had no idea what was a fair price; she just knew that I had gone to him in the past as he was the only dealer in town for a while, so trusted him. Once I found out what she had paid he and I had a talk leading to a refund. What an ass*&^%!)

Anyway, in this case, he had the BDA on consignment and it was still sitting in the holster the seller had been carrying it in. The pistol still had a full magazine in the well and one up the spout. To unload the gun so I could look at it, he racked the slide, ejecting the chambered round and removed the magazine. I told him that he had done the sequence backwards and had in reality just loaded the pistol, and he told me I didn't know what I was talking about. He actually _pointed_ the gun at me and said that it was unloaded and he could show me by pulling the trigger! After getting up off the floor I told Mr. Expert that yes I was just an ignorant podunk when it came to guns compared to him, so why not back up his claim by shooting (dry firing he insisted) at his favorite moose trophy hanging on the wall?

Well, dead-eye dickly proceeded to blow the snout off his big moose head, and while I was laughing my ass off he told me and my friend to get out and not come back! :D

Hilarious. I saw this menace to society a few years later at a gun show actually signing up hapless students for his CCW training classes, and stood around making moose nose jokes until he looked ready to explode. He ended up moving to Florida and setting up shop there.

Just goes to show you that you have to watch everyone for gun safety issues. BTW, the biggest group of folks that have AD's (accidental discharges) are police officers!

Regards,

Norm

Do you still have the Ruger .44?

My friend in High School (1977) had one and I just thought it was the neatest thing. And accurate!

I wanted to buy my wife one but couldn't find them. Got her a .44 marlin lever instead. Now it looks like they are making them again? Wonder if the new ones are as good?

I just thought size wise and handling wise and accuracy wise the old ones were awesome. I use a .35 and 6.5x55, cause of more reach, but at probably 100 yards or less the Rugers could take down anything!
 
When I was a kid, I had just inherited my Grandfather's 12 GA Winchester lever action shotgun. Even though I had been safety trained, hunted for years, and had other guns, I just couldn't resist loading it and levering out the shells as fast as I could.

It went off and blew a hole through the wall of my bedroom. I tried to patch it up with plaster, but the smell of gunpowder remained and it wasn't long before my parents found out what happened.

I made the mistake of telling them that the gun has a sensitive trigger and it wasn't my fault. My mother believed it as she had heard her dad talk of the "hair trigger". They decided that the gun was too dangerous and gave it to my non-hunting Uncle who sold it for $20.
 
During my army sevice there was an accident with kalashnikov. Group of guys on wathchpost were too lazy to load their own weapons so they loaded just one and lended it one from another when they had to watch for two hours period. At the end of the duty of the group one guy asked the last one on post to give him the loaded ammo compartment from the loaded AK so he would empty it. The other guy was holding the gun against the one who asked for the ammo compartment. When he was taking it out of the gun, the shot came out. Someone during the service probably played with the gun and loaded the barrel. The guy laid down shot in his cheek. The bullet went through his head behind his ear. Fortunately, no vital organ was damaged this time, just soft flesh.

cosco
 
Had a friend in high school who accidentaly shot a hole in his parents clothes dryer with a .44 rifle.

From then on his dad and uncles teased him whenever he was going hunting. One of my favorites was when they put a package of Bounce fabric softner into his bag that he was taking to camp. His dad said "didn't want you to go hunting dryers without any lure!" :D
 
hollowdweller said:
Do you still have the Ruger .44?

My friend in High School (1977) had one and I just thought it was the neatest thing. And accurate!

I wanted to buy my wife one but couldn't find them. Got her a .44 marlin lever instead. Now it looks like they are making them again? Wonder if the new ones are as good?

I just thought size wise and handling wise and accuracy wise the old ones were awesome. I use a .35 and 6.5x55, cause of more reach, but at probably 100 yards or less the Rugers could take down anything!


No, and I wish I did. It was a handy little thing. I still have 3 handguns in .44 mag, but went with the .444 marlin instead for more power. I did a trade for a bunch of custom .45 auto parts including a bunch of the discontinued 8 rd. Devel competition magazines, and the Ruger carbine was part of the trade. I don't like the new lever ones, but if they are making them again in semi-auto they should be identical. Kind of plain jane looking but fun and hard hitting, as long (as you say) that you keep it to about 100 yards.

Regards,

Norm
 
...Here, hold my beer" ;)

I don't believe i weapon prohibitions, but if ya get licesned to drive, why not licensed to shoot? When I was in PA, you had to take Hunter's safety to get a hunter's lic. I think everyone should know how to safely operate and handle guns, cars, and -- most importantly-- themselves.

Keith
 
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