Gun trade advice!!

Monofletch

Monofletch

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My future son in law wants an AR. He likes the one I have and offered me his Rock Island 1911 45 Alf. It is the newer version with the logo towards the rear and the adjustable sights. It is basically bnib with all the goodies. My AR is bnib never fired. 5.56 DPMS flat top with a standard military front A2 gas block and removable A2 rear sight. It came with 3 - 30 round mags and a big plastic box/case.
What do you think- about even?
 
Monofletch said:
My future son in law wants an AR. He likes the one I have and offered me his Rock Island 1911 45 Alf. It is the newer version with the logo towards the rear and the adjustable sights. It is basically bnib with all the goodies. My AR is bnib never fired. 5.56 DPMS flat top with a standard military front A2 gas block and removable A2 rear sight. It came with 3 - 30 round mags and a big plastic box/case.
What do you think- about even?
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Go shoot them together. Wait until you get home and if you want it more than your AR then trade. Both are of fair but not best in their line quality wise, but have goid reps in general. Depends on what you want more.
 
Well, I have had the AR for almost a year and it is still in the box unshot. I planned to deer hunt with it (my daughters) but they use my crossbow. Plus unless I drive a while I have nowhere to shoot it. We have a bunch of 30 yard indoor ranges close, but that is no fun with an AR.
 
Sounds like they are both in the $500 range, so if the trade works for everyone go for it.
I don’t know what your state requires but I’d get a bill of sale.
 
We don’t have to do anything. We can still buy at yard sales and flea markets. One of the last states I think.
I carried a 45 in the Army during the Gulf war - so there is that too.
 
3fifty7 said:
Sounds like they are both in the $500 range, so if the trade works for everyone go for it.
I don’t know what your state requires but I’d get a bill of sale.
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^^ this ^^

The trade is what it is. If you're comfortable with it, go for it. RIA makes one of the best budget 1911's.

I would recommend a bill of trade of some sort, as well. Should the AR ever turn up in a crime, and is traced back to you (things like this do occasionally happen) you can prove that it no longer belongs to you. If your future son-in-law has a carry permit (not sure what your states requirements are) I would also require him to show it. May sound like a dick-move, considering the personal relationship you have with him, but it will verify that he is not a prohibited person. Explain it's just a CYA move, and nothing personal.

In my state, all handgun transfers must go through an FFL (other than some very specific family-family ones), but private long gun sales are unregulated. If someone buying a rifle from me can't show me a current carry permit, which proves they've passed a background check and are not prohibited, I insist on transferring through an FFL. Like I said, just covering my behind.

Edit to add: I would actually recommend he do the same
 
Monofletch said:
We don’t have to do anything. We can still buy at yard sales and flea markets. One of the last states I think.
I carried a 45 in the Army during the Gulf war - so there is that too.
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Not one of the last states. Not even close. Private sales and trades are legal in many states. It's the only way I'll ever buy, sell, or trade firearms.
 
jaseman said:
^^ this ^^

The trade is what it is. If you're comfortable with it, go for it. RIA makes one of the best budget 1911's.

I would recommend a bill of trade of some sort, as well. Should the AR ever turn up in a crime, and is traced back to you (things like this do occasionally happen) you can prove that it no longer belongs to you. If your future son-in-law has a carry permit (not sure what your states requirements are) I would also require him to show it. May sound like a dick-move, considering the personal relationship you have with him, but it will verify that he is not a prohibited person. Explain it's just a CYA move, and nothing personal.

In my state, all handgun transfers must go through an FFL (other than some very specific family-family ones), but private long gun sales are unregulated. If someone buying a rifle from me can't show me a current carry permit, which proves they've passed a background check and are not prohibited, I insist on transferring through an FFL. Like I said, just covering my behind.

Edit to add: I would actually recommend he do the same
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As of last year January 1 Missouri residents are not required to have a permit to CCW. Also, private sales do not require anything. I do always get a bill of sale. Our gun sale laws are almost non existent.
 
Monofletch said:
As of last year January 1 Missouri residents are not required to have a permit to CCW. Also, private sales do not require anything. I do always get a bill of sale. Our gun sale laws are almost non existent.
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While I fully support Constitutional Carry, as well as freely buying/selling/trading privately, I'm just curious:
Other than a bill of sale, how do you make sure you are not selling a gun to a prohibited person? Or do you just not worry about it?
 
I do not sell or trade very many guns. Maybe 3 over the years.
I do not know why the law is written that way....
 
jaseman said:
While I fully support Constitutional Carry, as well as freely buying/selling/trading privately, I'm just curious:
Other than a bill of sale, how do you make sure you are not selling a gun to a prohibited person? Or do you just not worry about it?
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In my jurisdiction (not Missouri ) a seller doesn't have to make sure he is not selling to a prohibited person. A seller must have no reason to believe he's selling to a prohibited person. There's a difference.
 
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