Gun value question

Pygmalion

Pygmalion

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Can someone give me a estimate of the approximate value of the following handgun. It is a High Point (Hi Point?) 40 cal. It has had less than 50 rounds fired through it. The owner says it is "too loud" for him (not a problem for me because hopefully I will never have to fire it without hearing protection).
Thanks.
 
Around here a year ago they were selling the 9MM under $110.00 new, I would check around with your local dealers, you may be surprised how cheap you can buy a New one.
 
High Point pistols are just about the least expensive new pistols available. I would not pay over $75 to $100 for one. I would much rather have a decent older Smith & Wesson .38 revolver for about $150, though. You don't need a .40 caliber and you don't need an automatic.
 
I have no first hand experience; but I've heard of some serious problems with them (jamming, failure to fire, and slide cracking). I'd want to test fire (at least 15 rounds) and exam it prior to paying anything. If seemed to be fine, I'd go with Dr. Mudd's price range. The good point is that at that price range, you probably won't lose much if you want to resell it.
 
Thanks for the input. I was going to buy it to help a friend out of a bind, but after reading a little more about it, I have decided against it. I would rather lend him the $ than buy the HP. It sounds more like a real cheaply built firearm. As for me, I'll stick with my Glock model 23. I bought the glock about 10 or 11 years ago, and the reason I bought a 40 cal is that a police officer recommended it to me. He said if a gun were ever needed to protect yourself in a vehicle against someone inside another vehicle, the 40 cal could penetrate both windshields and still have stopping power. Hopefully I will never shoot the thing outside of the range. I'm not an aggressive driver and not prone to road rage, and have never had cause to even think about retrieving it from its space in my truck.
I think I would almost be afraid to shoot the HP for fear it might "break up" upon discharge.
 
the 40 cal could penetrate both windshields and still have stopping power.
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He was wrong. A pistol bullet usually won't even penetrate one windshield unless it hits square on, which can't happen unless you're up on a hill shooting down at it.
 
Cougar Allen said:
He was wrong. A pistol bullet usually won't even penetrate one windshield unless it hits square on, which can't happen unless you're up on a hill shooting down at it.
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Wow! I had no reason to doubt this guy. I have been riding around all this time with a false sense of security. That's fine, I guess, because I have also been riding around thinking there were plenty of pistols riding around out there as potential threats of an attack from another vehicle to mine.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly haven't lost any sleep over it. It was just part of the thinking process in buying the gun.
I love that firearm so much now I would not change. I am used to it and have become fairly proficient in using it.
Besides, I have a pretty good idea that I will live out the rest of my days never having to fire the gun in a self defense situation. It's just that there is some comfort in knowing that if I ever needed it, it's there.
 
Pyg, I'm glad to hear you have that .40 Glock. I was afraid you would make a bad (High Point) mistake.
 
Shoot through the door for a body hit.. Lot easier to penetrate thin sheetmetal than glass. There are no magical handgun rounds...
A lot of police are not really gun people. Its a tool they carry in the course of the work.. Most carry a 40 because that is whats issued by their department..
 
Dr. Mudd said:
Pyg, I'm glad to hear you have that .40 Glock. I was afraid you would make a bad (High Point) mistake.
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I'm guilty of judging things sometimes by reputation and price. Glock, for instance, is well known, and certainly not the cheapest 40 cal out there, and those two things are what persuaded me to buy a Glock.
I don't know how true this is (it could be an urban legend), but I heard that in testing one of the Glock models, it was fired 10,000 times consecutively, and the only damage suffered was the front sight melted off.
Has anybody else heard this?
 
Cougar Allen said:
He was wrong. A pistol bullet usually won't even penetrate one windshield unless it hits square on, which can't happen unless you're up on a hill shooting down at it.
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240 gr 44 mag seems to do pretty good on windshields at different angles.
 
Pygmalion said:
I'm guilty of judging things sometimes by reputation and price. Glock, for instance, is well known, and certainly not the cheapest 40 cal out there, and those two things are what persuaded me to buy a Glock.
I don't know how true this is (it could be an urban legend), but I heard that in testing one of the Glock models, it was fired 10,000 times consecutively, and the only damage suffered was the front sight melted off.
Has anybody else heard this?
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There have been numerous torture test of Glocks, mostly done with the model 17 (9mm), however I haven't heard that one before. Doesn't mean its not true though.... Glocks with over 100,000 rounds through them are fairly common. They have been dropped from planes, ran over by cars, and left in salt water submerged for 30 days, rinsed off and fired, with the only noticeable rust on the trigger spring.. People can say what they want but Glocks are probably the most durable and reliable semi auto pistol ever made.
Usually people that have problems with malfunctions are limp wristing the pistol. In which case, they are going to have problems with most semi autos.
The other complaint is that they don't have an external safety like a 1911.
Its only a problem if you don't handle the gun correctly. Its not going to fire until you pull the trigger. I have a Glock model 21 45acp, model 36 45 acp and a model 17 9mm. These pistols have had thousands of rounds through them and I have only had one malfunction. That was in the model 21 and I was shooting Winchester crap white box ammo. The case split and was stuck tight enough it wouldn't extract it, I had to carefully tap it out of the chamber with a cleaning rod.. Sorry for the semi-rant, They are great pistols. Enjoy yours, you will never wear it out. :D
 
My BIL has a High Point in 9MM. Ugly but goes bang everytime. There was a recent review in Gun Test on a High Point. Basically said it was crude but reliable. As mentioned above, brand new ones are going for 150.
 
I shot a friends 9mm hi-point once. It was a compact model(relatively speaking). It never gave us any malfunction over a couple boxes of cheap bulk ammo, and was reasonably accurate.
As someone who puts a couple thousand rounds through a gun in a year, I don't have much use for one. With that amount of shooting, the ammo costs more than the gun and it only makes sense to buy a good quality gun that will hold up to it.
For a homeowner on a budget, looking for something for emergencies and maybe one or two range sessions a year, the high point seems like a pretty good value. Maintained properly they seem to be reliable, and you're not going to find much better for $100 even on the used market.
 
Seriously...I'd much rather have a totally beat-up Glock model 22 or 23, than a brand-new Hi-Point .40, anyday. The .40 is a fairly high-pressure round, and the Glock can handle alot more pressure than the High-Point can even come close to.
 
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