Gunting/Compression Lock

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James Mattis

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Here's a picture of the Gunting next to 2/3 of a Trainer, to show the Compression Lock.

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There are more Gunting pictures of varying quality in my Blade Show pictures directory.

The Gunting's Compression lock is a mirror image, per Bram Frank's instructions, of the Compression Lock in other new models. Either way, releasing the lock quickly, one-handed, will be a new art to learn. Sal and Bram, among others, have already learned to do it fast.

It works by having steel come in sideways between the tang and the stop pin. It is very strong. If your name isn't Clark Kent, are not going to defeat it bare-handed.

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[This message has been edited by James Mattis (edited 06-07-2000).]
 
Huh... So this is the first pic of the Mystery Lock. That's a pretty big deal!

It actually looks like a simple mechanism, which is good: the simpler the better in mechanical devices. It certainly does look strong and it also looks like it wouldn't be that hard to manipulate. I'll bet that for the first few days of owning a compression lock though, you'll probably be trying to press down on the lock release, mistaking it for a normal lock-back.
 
I've seen that design somewhere before????? But where???
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[This message has been edited by Big-Target (edited 06-04-2000).]
 
After manipulating it for a while (when Bram gave his amazing seminar in Israel a while ago) I can tell you a few things about this lock:

1. you are NEVER going to accidentally fold the knife.

2. but you are going to pinch your palm while opening it - until you get use to holding it in a slightly different way before opening in the traditional "use the spyder hole" technique.

3. this lock is STRONG and no back smacking of any kind is gonna do it any harm...

The truth is - you'll be ten times faster if you use your opponent to open it on him..
 
I've seen that lock before too...doesn't Warren Osborne use a variant of that on his Silvertip series?

Ryan
 
intersting, are all of the trainers going to be open like that, or is this just to show the lock?
Aaron

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actually its a trainer with the side off of it next to a live bladed GUNTING...
this is a new lock..REALLY..
Its concept is different in that the blade is compressed on several sides...
no more pinching....lock recess is been tweaked..
We opened it really fast at the show! and yes my knives have the lock reversed from all other compression locks..
 
Now this lock certainly looks like it has a good deal of potential.
In case I've missed it, has Sal said how many inch/pounds it will withstand?
Looks like I'll be needing to start saving my money again!

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The individualist without strategy who takes opponents lightly will inevitably become the captive of others.
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depending on thickness 950-1020..range,,
not bad so far!....
ahh a REALLY simple superstrong lock with no little parts to strech out or break...
no buttons...
no switches..
simplicity in strength!

 
It's a one piece lock. No ball bearing either.

"We don't need no stinking springs to open our knives". We got "holes" & "Kinetics". more controllable, safer, fast & simple.

sal
 
By the way,,this lock has been through the ringer in real time...These prototype knives have lived through training the Spesnatz, The Condor boys..the FSB, overto Israel to the Mossad, the Border Police, across the desert to Egypt then off to some of our military guys as well as regular seminars and constant use since early Feb till the Blade Show..where you guessed it..I was constantly banging them,,pushing the knives to the max....
I probably "kinetic" open a knife more times in a day then some people will in a few months...
damn, wouldn't you know it? I needed Vince to lube the knife..hmm lubrication..who would have thunk of it?
By the way, thanks to Rob at White Lightening for REALLY lubing the knives at the show..
anyways..GREAT lock..the BEST!
 
"We don't need no stinking springs ..."
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Since the new standard for an "emergency" knife, that has to be very fast, strong, and reliable, involves cleverly designed manual actions that don't involve stinking springs, and designs that were never intended to win beauty contests, I think we ought to be able to carry pretty and elegant little switchblades for discretionary cutting!
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Elegant little non-tactical auto

But I preach to the choir.
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[This message has been edited by James Mattis (edited 06-07-2000).]
 
Jim..Jim..Jim..discrectionary cutting -carry of automatic stuff that involves switches, buttons, springs, cams, inerlocking disks activated by a mechanical device that does the job of what ones fingers are supposed to do?????
A MACHINE KNIFE?? hhmmmmmmmm
 
I suppose I like knives with wildly different design philosophies the way I like wildly different kinds of music, and can go back and forth between Bach and Beethoven and Bulgarian bagpipes.
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Now there's an idea for an automatic knife - you activate it and it opens by clockwork at a gentlepersonly pace, while playing a little tune.
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(Make the clockwork auto any color but orange, and any tune but "Mack the Knife"!)


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Now James, I personally think that a "Clockwork Orange" knife that played "Mac the Knife" as it opened would be cool....way cool.
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Devon Thomas sharkstooth damascus in a Pat Crawford knife, color-enhanced in the image editor.

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Back to the Compression Lock, it takes practice to do a fast one-hand release. Not that you'd be in as much of a hurry to close it as you were to open it ....




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Well Jim..I guess martial artists must be over the learning curve cause thousands of them found the GUNTING extremely easy to use..opening AND closing.
they love the new compression lock..hmm Andy and Ben don't...I can't understand why? I only used their arms for three straight days showing how strong the lock is...what are those bruises?
 
James, James, James,

I thought our Clockwork Orange knife was going to play the 4th of the ninth, or has there been a change in the production model?
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By the way, have you heard when the first prototype is scheduled for delivery?


Mike
 
GUNTINGS ship Sept 1 I believe....
You have to remember that MY compression locks are in the CORRECT direction..somehow all the others are backwards..HMMMM no problemo.( oops did I REALLY say that?)
Cliff//Where are you? did you test them yet??..Ok better question..Did you recieve them yet???
 
cliff has the knives so the compression lock is going to be tested..by someone who cares about knives & locks...
happy fathers day to all of you dads!
 
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