Guyot Stainless Bottle Revelations + Issues and Concerns

Iboschi

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The post just delivered to me: one Guyot 38 oz SS bottle, one capCAP, and one Guyot Glacier cup.

Everything looked great and I was happy. Then, upon close inspection I noted a hairline gap under the threads of the bottle. You can also see them on the interior of the mouth where they try to flush the two pieces of steel together as a fine line where the metal meets.

I have to think, they use glue or epoxy to connect this don't they? Is that why is says "NOT FOR USE WITH HOT LIQUIDS" on the bottom? I'm bummed out! You can see the lines on the inside on the 2nd and 3rd pictures of this post: http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=648852

What is going on here? Nobody else noticed this? Is it a problem they've corrected and I just received an old one?
 
I see the line on both of my Standard Guyots but see no expoxy. It's my understanding that the thread assembly slips over the neck. If you look under the bottom flange on the exterior, you can see the gap. Not sure if they apply a light weld of some kind or not but the line around the inside of mine appears to be free of any epoxy and looks to be all metal in the groove.

I think they warn against hot liquids because of the chance you may burn yourself and sue them.
 
I really hope not. Because, epoxy will most likely give you cancer fast than bpa. Plus, I don't think epoxy is food safe. If you heat if under a fire, epoxy should burn.

God Bless
 
It isn't epoxied. I use mine in the fire all the time. I believe that is a standard disclaimer ala Warning: Coffee is hot (So don't put the styrofoam cup full of it between your legs next to your sensitive bits dumb***) that some people seem to need. I think they learned it from McDonalds. ;)
 
Sorry I did not respond in the other thread, but I am just getting over a weird flu, and have not be been as quick on the net...


All bottles have a seam in them...

The KK seam is down the side, you can see it from the inside.

The Guyot seam is at the top of the bottle, at the shoulder, if you stick your finger in there, you will probably feel a little roughness from the weld. Then, with the Guyot, the threads are a separate unit, that is welded on...



But, that is OK, because the heat of the fire will transfer to the water, and you won't reach any critical temperature to bust welds. Welds if done right, are very strong.

The manufacturer doesn't want you do use hot liquids, because they don't want the liability.

Joezilla has boiled in his Guyot, as have others... Here is a thread, where I asked this question... http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682684



What the warning from the manufacturer means, is that if you hurt yourself by boiling water in your bottle, or burn yourself with hot liquid, they can't be sued, because they told you not to...


Hope that helps...

Marion
 
I just checked mine and I see what you mean. I don't know for sure but as far as I can guess, its pressed on. I would imagine it is similar to the way they press on canned food lids. As long as it doesn't leak, that'd probably last a life time if taken care of. One thing that I have noticed, as I have been EDCing my SS guyot bottle everyday for about a month or so now, is that it very easy to dent it. I take great care to make sure it doesn't get banged really bad but even the occasional bump into a desk or counter causes little dents. I've started to carry it in the neoprene case to try to avoid any more dings. Maybe its just me but water seems to taste better when drinking from the SS bottle instead of the plastic ones.
 
Marion David Poff said:
Sorry I did not respond in the other thread, but I am just getting over a weird flu, and have not be been as quick on the net...


All bottles have a seam in them...

The KK seam is down the side, you can see it from the inside.

The Guyot seam is at the top of the bottle, at the shoulder, if you stick your finger in there, you will probably feel a little roughness from the weld. Then, with the Guyot, the threads are a separate unit, that is welded on...



But, that is OK, because the heat of the fire will transfer to the water, and you won't reach any critical temperature to bust welds. Welds if done right, are very strong.

The manufacturer doesn't want you do use hot liquids, because they don't want the liability.

Joezilla has boiled in his Guyot, as have others... Here is a thread, where I asked this question... http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682684



What the warning from the manufacturer means, is that if you hurt yourself by boiling water in your bottle, or burn yourself with hot liquid, they can't be sued, because they told you not to...


Hope that helps...

Marion
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ok...so I posted right after this....i am wrong :thumbup:
 
Alright, I feel a bit better about it now. The weld on the Kleen Kanteens is part of a proprietary pressing process and the bottle is comprised of only a single part. The Guyot bottle is two pieces smatcheted together, but as long as there is no risk of breakage or some kind of epoxy break down, I feel better about it. I'll give it a shot and see how it performs before I review further.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
I've boiled water in mine many a time. No worries! :)
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Good to hear. I just didn't anticipate this engineering feature and really expected something more seamless. I was concerned about it initially, but feel more at ease with it now. I've not heard reports of any failures but still wanted to understand if it was a common design feature or if I had procured something "not quite right". I think it'll work out just fine though.
 
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