Had my first night in my Claytor Jungle Hammock

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And it was.... interesting. First off, I chose a night that turned into a massive thunderstorm. Nothing like trial by fire. I was hoping to have a clear night for my first hang. I got terrential downpour instead. Oh well. I didn't get home until 10:30 at night, so I was also hanging it in the dark. The one saving grace was it didn't start raining until an hour after I was in the hammock. So it was dark when I set it up, but at least it wasn't wet.

So first thing. I must be mechanically uninclined because I could NOT figure the cinch buckles out. I bought the ones that everyone on the hammockcamping forum recommended. I guess I just don't get how to feed the straps through it. I ended up with something that worked, but it would have been loads easier to just tie knots in rope.

It took me, roughly, an hour and 45 mins to hang the hammock and fly. Not exactly speedy, but first time and in the dark was tough.

I didn't do any tensioners on the fly because by then I was frustrated. I think I'm going to have to do a ridgeline. I read somewhere that the Clayot diamond fly doesn't need a ridgeline, but mine sure sagged in the middle when I pulled the guylines out tight. Maybe I was doing something wrong.

The first thing I noticed is that the hammock compressed me quite a bit. I'm used to laying in a regular hammock that has 3'ish spreader bars on both ends to make a nice flat surface. This thing rolled up on me, turning me into a hammock tube-o-Noshtero. I could force my arms out and open it up a bit, but it just collapsed back onto me. I mean, I got used to it, but I definently had firm pressure on both arms all night, and it rolled my shoulders in towards the middle.

Throughout the night, about every 30 seconds or so I got a nice cold drop of rain on my bare legs. I wasn't getting rained on, I was getting dripped on. I am almost positive that the end of the hammock was under the fly, so I'm not sure what was dripping on me unless it was dripping from where the rope met the fly, and the wind was blowing it back onto me. I have a fancy strap and cinch buckle system for the hammock, but I'm just using the stock ropes for the fly.

Also, I got some trickle-down water. Now, I thought with a carabiner going from the hammock to the straps, it wouldn't trickle past that. I didn't get a ton, like if it was a solid rope, but I got some.

Things that went right! My REI litecore 1.5 pad worked beautifully. It slid right into the pad sleeve on the Claytor and didn't move around at all. My sleeping bag worked great as well. I layed it open on it's side so the zipper was in the middle and just sort of wrapped it up around the sides. Nothing on top of me, just bottom and sides. It worked well, even with the wind and rain I didn't get cold. My Thermarest pillow was awesome. It fits right inside the hood of my bag so I can still pull the hood up over my head, which I did. My stick spreader bar for the bug net worked decently. It was cocked at an angle because I think I had uneven tension on the two shock cords. I set it up in pitch black, so I couldn't tell until the morning anyway. Except for the whole cinch buckles not being adjustable (which was my lack of knowing how to use them) the strapworks straps and biners worked Great!

All in all, it wasn't bad.

I've since learned how to properly use cinch buckles, and had my sag/compression questions answered. The next time should be a lot better. I'm heading to Briar Patch this weekend. I'm hoping to live in the hammock. If it fails, I'll have my tent in my car.

I'll get some pictures up as soon as I get them off my camera.
 
Im curious to what were the awnsers to your compression issues?

Great review, doesnt sound to bad at all........ How was condensation in the AM?
 
Zero condensation. That's part of the appeal of hammocking. You're off the ground, no dew.

As far as the compression issues, it was due to me having the hammock too tight which was necessary due to how far apart the trees I used were. I have very few trees in my yard, so my best option was a stretch of about 25 feet. That's WAY too far. Your support ropes cut a hypotenuse to the ground, so the further away the tree, the longer the hypotenuse, the closer your hammock gets to the ground at the same tension.

So... in order to keep my ass from scraping the grass, I had to have the hammock tight. When I say "tight" I mean "TIGHT!". The hammock was nearly a level horizontal line before I got in it. The Claytor hammock is notoriously roomy, which is part of the reason why I chose it, so I should have NO compression problems if I hang it right.

Worst case, I can play with a 12" spreader bar in the hammock support channle. The hammock has a channel down each end that you run webbing through. Then when you pull up the hammock, that channel cinches down on the webbing. You can stick a 12" or so bar in there to stop it from cinching to less than 12". That will greatly open up the hammock.
 
Cool, thanks for the tip. If I cant get a night in mine before loud thunder, I might have to use you for help.....
 
another thing i have read alot about (and in my limited experience works well) is to lay somewhat diagonally in the hammock, maybe at a 20 degree angle? that will keep you from being wrapped up and spread the hammock out a bit flatter...

sounds like it worked alright for your first night, given the circumstances. i'm interested in hearing how you like it after a few nights...
 
A little trick to stop the rain from following the rope back into the hammock is to tie a couple of 6 to 8 inch strings around the rope near the tent end. Leave them hang and they will divert the water as it runs back and the water will drip off the strings. Learned something in the Corps.
 
I think if you used a ridgeline, you wouldn't have gotten the shoulder squeeze. Also, a small piece of cord tied to the buckle/ring/rope will catch drips and guide them to the ground. It is still a problem if the rope is absorbing the water, but if you tie it at a ring or buckle it should work.
 
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There'll be a spot over by the road in for you to hang your Claytor Jungle in the poplars.

I have the same hammock and hung over there last year for the campout the weekend before Basic Survival. :)

Good idea to work out the kinks in the hammock before getting there. That'll make life a little easier once you're busy with the class.

I was hoping to make it up for a couple of days but life has gotten in the way (again) and the odds of a trip decrease every day. :(

B
 
There'll be a spot over by the road in for you to hang your Claytor Jungle in the poplars.

I have the same hammock and hung over there last year for the campout the weekend before Basic Survival. :)

Good idea to work out the kinks in the hammock before getting there. That'll make life a little easier once you're busy with the class.

I was hoping to make it up for a couple of days but life has gotten in the way (again) and the odds of a trip decrease every day. :(

B

Boo I was hoping to see you there. Well maybe you'll make it out there after all.
 
Here's a shot from my first hammock night.

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I know you're probably wondering why I have the hammock set up in the open yard, when there's a big forrest behind me. Well, I figure it took me 1 hour 45 mins to set it up in the open. It would probably have taken me double that to set it up in the woods :) I'll save the woods for next time ;)

I've since redone all the suspension. It's now:
Tree -> 12' Strapworks 1" poly strap with carabiner -> cinch buckle -> Amsteel Blue 1/8" cord -> Hammock -> other side of suspension, same as first

I've also replaced the stock tarp rope and knots with Pro Excel 2mm cord and Figure 9's. I'll report back again after next week of (hopefully) sleeping in this thing every night up at Briar Patch.

Wish me luck :thumbup:
 
I got my Claytor in the mail the other day also. First thing I knew would have to be done was to ditch the straps it comes with.

I think a set up similar to this looks like the best option for me.

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4719

Indeed that is what I'll be doing as well as soon as I get back. I'm using parts of that suspension right now. Unfortunately, I leave Saturday, and I can't get my hands on more Amsteel Blue line by then :( So I'll make due for Briar Patch, then switch to SLS for Loud Thunder :thumbup:

That Amsteel Blue is amazing stuff. 1/8" thick, but has a breaking strength of 2500 lbs. And even more impressive, at 30% breaking strength, it still has less than 1% stretch. Awesome.
 
Indeed that is what I'll be doing as well as soon as I get back. I'm using parts of that suspension right now. Unfortunately, I leave Saturday, and I can't get my hands on more Amsteel Blue line by then :( So I'll make due for Briar Patch, then switch to SLS for Loud Thunder :thumbup:

That Amsteel Blue is amazing stuff. 1/8" thick, but has a breaking strength of 2500 lbs. And even more impressive, at 30% breaking strength, it still has less than 1% stretch. Awesome.

The Amsteel is spectra cord without an outer sheath. Climbing spectra cord would work pretty much the same. Dyneema/spectra is the same cord but with a different name. http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/p...itan+Spectra+Cord/Store/MG/item/614811/N/1055

The 5.5mm cord is probably a lot more expensive than the Amsteel.
 
The Amsteel is spectra cord without an outer sheath. Climbing spectra cord would work pretty much the same. Dyneema/spectra is the same cord but with a different name. http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/p...itan+Spectra+Cord/Store/MG/item/614811/N/1055

The 5.5mm cord is probably a lot more expensive than the Amsteel.

I was told climbing cord has way too much stretch in it. It's designed to not shock you with an abrupt stop if you fall. Don't know if it's true. If nothing else, you're right it's way more expensive :)
 
Regular nylon accessory cord will stretch. The 5.5mm Titan cord has a core of the same material as the Amsteel but with a nylon sheath around it. It doesn't stretch either. But the price eliminates it as an option for hammock use.
 
Noshtero: I think the Claytor hammocks are the best commercially available hammocks. They suit my preferences anyway.

Using the Jungle Hammocke, I did have one unpleasant night in a hard rain, and I attributed this to the tarp not being waterproof. It seems like the waterproofing is backwards the tarp isn't but the body is.

Can you do a test and answer me a question about the Jungle Hammock model you got?

When you seal your mouth on the fabric of the tarp, can you draw air through it? How about the fabric of the body?

Also, if your favorite hanging trees are too far apart, there's a technique whereby you put a freestanding post where you'd really like the second tree to be, and hang between that post and the first tree.

I think you tie the top of the post to the base of the second tree. I'll research that a little more and see if I'm remembering correctly.

Bear
 
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