Hair shaving edge on my Sebenza. Help!

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Ketsugo

Ketsugo

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Hi,
I have many knives. I have found that I can't get ANY of them including my Reeve Sebenza to shave arm hair like all (3) my Microtech knives do. I am using the Spyderco Tri Angle Sharpmaker system. Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
JW
 
Try cleaning off the stones. Also remember that the sebenza has a convex edge so it might need to be reprofiled to a flat type edge.
 
I keep my Sharpmaker for serrations and for larger knives.

I can get my best, hair poppin' edges w/ a Lansky jig system finishing up with a fine diamond stone.

I suppose if I'd practice a whole bunch w/ the Sharpmaker, I could eventually master it, but the Lansky is quick and reasonably fool proof.

Make sure you get a burr on the full length of the edge before you flip to other side...then grind until you get that burr back over on the other side. Then lighten up on pressure and keep working burr back and forth. Experiment w/ stropping off burr, or very slightly increasing angle of attack to knock off that final burr.
 
I use a Norton Tri-Hone set up if when the blade edge is lost and the bevels need re-done, then on to the Spyderco ceramic flat stones and finally onto my leather strop which brings it to a very sharp final finish. I then keep it tuned up with the Spyderco Profiles and the strop, cuts the hair quite well, equal as the MT's I've owned...

Question though, the edges on your MT's, did you create those yourself? through maintainence?
If so, I'm puzzled that you are not able to bring about the same on the Sebenza...:rolleyes:
G2
 
John,
Your situation is identical to what I experienced.
Remember that the BG42 that CRK uses is more wear resistant that MT's 154CM/ ATS34 (all that vandium) and is hardened to a higher RC. In addition when using the 204 you're applying a v-grind and must remove the convexity from the Sebenza so the first tim is gonna take a long time, or will take several sharpening sessions. The BG42 is strong enough to support an edge at a 30 degree included angle unless you're doing heavy duty work. Eventually you will have that hair popping edge on your Sebbie.
G2,
My Microtech knives are way easier to sharpen than my Sebbie, for the reasons stated above. In addition I have used both CRK and MT knives straight from the box and have found MT's to come with a sharper edge than CRK (based on the three Sebbie's and 2 SOCOMS and 1 LCC I own)
BUT my large sebenza is my EDC.
 
Thanks guys!

My MT's are still sharp from the factory. I cut a ton of carpeting with my SOCOM and it STILL shaves hair! Chad, I replied to your e-mail and it came back as undeliverable. At this time, I don't want to trade my SOCOM. Thanks for the offer all the same.

I will continue to work to get that super sharp edge. And yes, I have been trying at 30 degrees.

John
 
Work the edge primarily with the corner side of the coarse stone first and get a decent edge. As stated above, first you have to remove the convex bevel.

After you get a decent edge with the corner of the coarse, then go to the flats and then to the fine stone on the corners and then finish it with the flats. Each time make certain that you count the strokes and keep the blade perfectly vertical.

You can strop it on a leather for a more polished edge, but I prefer the micro-serrations of an unpolished edge.

The Spyderco is a good sharpener, but it takes a lot of practice and BG-42 takes a while to work- that is why you spend more time with the coarse stone.

When all else fails- send it back to CRK and for the cost of return shipping they will sharpen it for you!
:p

Daniel
 
I agree with Rottwieler Dude. My microtech SOCOM gets used all the time and I never sharpen the thing. It seems to hold a razorsharp edge.








Kill Binladen::D
 
Originally posted by Ketsugo
I will continue to work to get that super sharp edge. And yes, I have been trying at 30 degrees.
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That will take longer than rebeveling it at 40 degrees. Because of the angle, it will take awhile before you hit the actual edge (the very edge will be the last part that gets rebeveled since you're going to a shallower angle). Sometimes it's alot easier to rebevel the edge over time, gradually sharpening at 30 degrees to get a "back bevel" and using the 40 degree angle to keep the final edge. I did the same thing with one of my 420V folders, which is much harder to rebevel.
See if using the 40 degree angle for a few strokes doesn't improve the edge immediately. It should...
That will also tell you if you're not getting to the edge yet with the 30 degree setting.
If you clean the stones every time they start to load up, it really shouldn't take long to rebevel your Sebenza. BG-42 is not much harder to sharpen than 154CM-you've just got a pretty good bit of steel to remove to get that thinner bevel.
Keep in mind the angle has nothing to do with sharpness. You can get it just as sharp at 40 degrees. It will cut better at 30 degrees, but it will be weaker, too. Something to think about if you plan to use it hard.
 
Well,
That did the trick! 40 degrees and I could shave my gonads if I wanted to. I knew this great forum would provied me with THE answer! Thannks to all.

John
 
I have been carrying a small unique for a while. I had a dull edge when I first bought it used. But, I have been strictly using the 40 degree setting on the sharpmaker. It is scary sharp now. Keep using that sharpmaker at 40 to touch it up after use, and it will stay scary sharp..
 
Originally Posted by Ketsugo: 40 degrees and I could shave my gonads. . .
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:p

Sorry bud. . .tellin' us a little more than what we want to see (or hear). lol ;)
 
Sounds like a great test of hand/eye coordination!
Demands a sharp edge.....and a steady hand:eek:
Somebody (else) should try it, and tell us how it goes:p
I KNOW HOW TO YELL ON HERE, but how do we type in falsetto?


btw, Ketsugo, after rereading my last post, let me say that my "It really shouldn't take long to rebevel your Sebenza." statement was very relative. Rebeveling any wear resistant steel with a Sharpmaker can be pretty frustrating and time-consuming (guess you already know that:)). I sometimes stand a coarse stone from an EdgePro up against the Sharpmaker stones and use it to establish the bevel on non-recurved blades. Cuts down on the moaning and hair-pulling. A coarse bench stone will work just as well if you can maintain the angle consistently.
(I'm not sure about using the EdgePro on hollow ground blades since I haven't had much practice with it, and am not going to experiment with my Sebenzas-it's been great on flat ground fixed blades so far.)
 
You guys are picking on me! I am very sensitive! But seriously, I said
I could shave my gonads if I wanted to.
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I am VERY happy with the edge now. Thanks again for all the help and all the smart ass comments as well.

John
 
You guys gotta understand John. He's already shaved the hair off his arms and legs going crazy testing the results of his sharpening skills with his new Spydie SharpMaker on his entire knife collection! All he had left with any hair at all were his dog and his gonads. Obviously by virtue of his post you can tell which he values more!!!

Sorry John! I couldn't help myself! hehehehe
 
Well Bob,
I still have a FULL head of hair!

Also, I couldn't help myself. You know what a smart ass I really am.
 
True enough! hehehe You KNOW I'm bald!
But don't obfuscate your original announcement that you could shave your privates and not your head or dog. Freudian?

Wonder how many here know about the Animal House?
 
Well...Ketsugo's profile says he is a retired bicycle racer. So I am sure he still shaves his legs. It looks like now he just does it in style with a large Sebenza and has moved up to other body parts.

Not to worry Ketsugo...I race too...However, it seems I still haven't shaved as much as you have with my Sebenza.

JT
 
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