Half of a Burr King 482 Is it worth fixing.

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Today I came across part of a Burr King 482. It was literally laying in a field. There is no motor. It needs to be cleaned up. My question is it worth getting parts from Burr King, or getting some generic wheels and making what I have work. The other option is keep saving for another grinder. I am just starting out wanting to make knives. I really enjoy the making of a tool that can be used and admired at the same time. Right now all I have are files and sand paper, and some basic hand and power tools. When I found this(and I was given the grinder from the owner at no charge) I thought I might get a grinder sooner than I thought. Any help or ideas are welcomed.



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Interesting, and exciting find!

I don't have the answer you are looking for. But I'd suggest contacting Burr King to find out the cost of replacement parts to get it working again. Then make a decision.

I once bought a Rockwell 14" wood saw at auction and it almost cost me as much as a new one to get restored once I stripped it, bought paint, new bearings, upgraded blade guides, rubber tires, and a few other missing parts. In the end, I'm happy with the outcome though.

Good luck,

Mike L.
 
For sure call the Burr King folks, they are great. One awesome thing about Burr Kings is that they always have parts for their various models--I would just let them know what I had and ask them what you need to get the beast up to full operating status, they'll tell you and you'll know the cost. If it's within your budget, I can tell you that Burr Kings are really great machines.

Good luck bro--hope it works out for you!
 
Those are great machines but to rebuild in that condition probably will be big $$$ and not much savings
 
I have a pair of Burr King 760's, I have worked on several of these machines, and I have bought lots of parts from Burr King. From what I can see from the photos:

1. This is a machine made after ~1982, but before the most recent generation. (Note that there is just one tracking adjustment knob, like the most recent ones -- this puts it after ~ 1982 or so, and yet it has the older door design which was switched I believe in the 1990's). My guess is that this is a mid 1980's machine. The serial number will be stamped into the side of the baseplate and Burr King can tell you exactly.

2. From what I can tell, you will need at least:
-2 idler wheel assemblies. For the larger 760 machines, these are around $135 each, but your 482 takes a smaller dia. wheel.
-Belt tension spring and some parts, like the rod that goes into the spring
-almost certainly, you will need a new drive wheel bearing and hub. These are around $100
-platen and platen mount (about $75 for both for my 760, maybe a bit less for yours)
-workrest and workrest mount (also about $75 for my 760, maybe a bit less for yours)
-You'll also need a v-belt and maybe some small hardware and odds & ends.
-The tracking adjustment knob/stud is missing. It goes in the hole under the words "BURR KING" in the main casting. A wing bolt would work in a pinch if you don't want to buy one -- I haven't priced these.
-(the guard door is also missing, but this doesn't really matter unless you're the type of person who likes putting fingers in bad places -- i'd just take off the hinge if it were mine...the generation just previous to yours circa 1980 did not have a door and was just open like yours is now.)

This puts you at maybe $550 + motor & switch to complete the machine if nothing unexpected is broken. Then you need a motor & switch. The motor is the world's most common size 56 frame, and you'll probably want 1hp on the machine like the factory ones (although 3/4hp or 1.5hp would be fine if it's easier to find). Motor + switch can be done for $100 with a little, but not too much looking. (Note: I'm assuming you put a 110v non-variable-speed system on for simplicity's sake).

If you don't want to put in $550 + motor & switch = ~500, then save $100 and don't replace the drive wheel hub, and also fab your own platen/platen mount and/or workrest/workrest mount (another $150 off). You'll want to eventually replace the drive wheel bearing assembly, but you won't hurt anything by using it until it properly dies (although def. soak it in a solvent oil for a while before using). You can maybe get cheaper idler wheels, too -- You need them on 5/8" studs.

If you do order parts from burr king, then CALL THEM and ask for Terry, and give him your serial number from the side of the machine's baseplate. Ask him to send you a manual specific for your machine because it takes some parts that are different than the new machines. They stock the old parts usually, but you want to make sure you order those and not the different, newer equivalents that may not fit.. The price lists for all the new versions of the parts are posted online here (you need the manual to find the part numbers, but you can just download the manual for the new machine from their website to get an idea):
http://www.burrking.com/catalog/p-100043/replacement-parts

There are one or two dealers online who sell the same parts drop-shipped from burr king at a 10% or so discount, but I always buy from Burr King because Terry there knows the machines inside out and makes sure I'm getting the right parts.

Personally, I think it's a no-brainer to fix this machine up unless the remaining parts are really trashed. I absolutely love my 760's -- fantastically designed machines -- and the fact that burr king has the manual and drop-in replacement parts means that it is super easy and dead simple to restore it so that it's mechanically like new. If you don't like it once it's done, then sell it for ~750 come out no worse than even.

Obviously, the only real drawback for knifemaking is the fact that it uses a small drivewheel.

When you work on it, I recommend lots of Kroil or good penetrant oil. The machine is mostly aluminum castings. Because some of the fasteners are steel and it was left outside, you will have galling/corrosion issues, so a penetrant oil soak will help get things moving safely again. I use Simple Green to clean, but it will etch aluminum if you leave it too long -- make sure to rinse it REALLY well and don't leave residue in holes, etc.

If you have any other questions about the machine and I don't see them here, then just PM me.
 
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Be sure that it is not tweaked and bent. There might be a reason they ditched it and took all the parts off
 
I would fix it, if it looks like it isn't bent as others have said. Pick up some generic wheels off eBay , build your own platen, and buy a 1 horse motor from harbor freight. I bet you could get it running and useable for under $300.
 
I'd fix that for sure, but I'm a grinder whore.


I'd start with a bath at the car wash.


Learn what you can about the parts from Burr King

But buy what you can generic.

Bearings, springs, screws...you can get without OEM parts markup


take a straight edge and try to eyeball everything so see if something is straight.



Lots of projects get started, not finished and passed on because somebody died, or moved, or divorced.
There could be nothing wrong with that besides missing parts and being chucked outside.
 
Thank you for all of the replies. I will be contacting burr king and start with a price for getting it up and going with factory parts and then go from there. Hopefully, I will get a check I have been waiting on so I should have the funds to get going on this soon.
 
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