hammer brand stockman

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I dont know if this is the right forum, but its about a hammer brand stockman from the early 70s,that came out of a basement. This is a regular 3 blade with the normal arm and hammer stamp. The knife was in a basement since the 70s and its like brand new. After all this my question is i've been collecting since the 80s and been to shows flea markets etc. and have never seen a bone handled hammer brand in place of the shell handle. Has anyone else seen early 70s hammer brands with bone handles. I could try to post a picture if a member could forward it ,but ive tried to post one directly,but have not been successful. Its 3 7/8 closed matchstriker pull light brown bone handles. thank you
 
If it is real jigged brown bone, it is older than the 70's. Almost all of the Imperial-made Hammer Brand knives had shell handles, but a very few were made with solid handles including yellow, smooth black, imitation bone, and real bone....circa late 40's to 50's.
 
That is what I thought - yes my guess is late 40's to 50's - same tooling and bone handles as you will find on the "Ulster" marked knives of the period, made on the same tooling but with the Hammer Brand stamp.
 
first thanks for posting mypicture, second the reason i said 70s was i got this in a box of app. 100 knives ,their were g.scrade switchs, casexx, kabar primbles westerns schrades, the coworkers father was a lawman and kept these from various people.he;s not into knives at all and offered them too me and 75 percent were from the late 60s early 70s.I just thought by the looks early 70s, but am not surprised its older condition wise like it was made yesterday
 
Now that's what I'd call a good score...can I say that with the law involved??:eek: :D

Bill
 
Ok here is my guess it is not bone it is delrin and correct from the 60tys and 70tys. Notice the even patterned jigging the equal and smooth coloration on the forward size and the newer style hammer stamp. A tough call from a pic but quite similar to other knives of the period . Kutmaster, Pal , ect. (It could go either way but that. (No offense).( I do make many mistakes, is just my opinion. ) LT
 
Looks like delrin to me too!
Also an opinion. If I am in doubt, I take a very sharp blade and rest it on the handle, as if to cut the knife like a loaf of bread! Then I slide the knife SIDEWAYS as if I'm lightly scraping the handle! if it "skates", it's bone or stag, which are very hard. If it "snags" it's plastic. I've scared a lot of knife owners, but never damaged a handle!
 
Then of course there is the hot pin test ( which with my mechanical ability has never worked for me. ) Take a pin and heat it. Then use a vise grip or similar pick it up and stick it in the handle somewhere it will not show. If it melts it is plastic if it smells like burning hair, then it is bone. Ok that is what the instructions are. First I do not like making marks on my knives anywhere obvious or not. Second I usually forget the vise grips and hate those little black lines that burn on my fingers. Next I do not like the smell of burning hair or bodies usually if I can simply handle the piece it ( after many years is pretty easy to tell ) in this case you might want to try the procedure. Now you know what happens to the switchblades confiscated by the police when they take your knife and give you a break by not arresting you. Some do it to give the guy a break however that is not always the case . That is why I have fought so hard to have these laws changed to be more definative on what is legal and what isn't. In stead of the whimsical nebulous laws that leave it up to the mood of the implementing agencys definition of enforcment that day. I do not care what the laws says I would simply like a law that is enforced the same every day. Frankly if they ever did persue such a case ( which is never done charges for these items unless taken in the course of a crime which would be the same if someone was beating someone with a coke bottle ) are always dismissed by the agency half the time the item is lost or mutilated ( evidence number etched on the blade ect) . If this was ever taken to the supreme court all of these laws would be scraped upon second amendment rights. I mean guns are fine but a 100 year old knife with a one inch blade sorry give it up or go to jail. I am not insulting any one I am sure your dad was a fine officer, I as a peace officer for 26 years for the stsate of NY have found most were it is these laws that are nuts. Whoops did I get off on my pet peeve again. Oh well happy pin sticking. LT
 
thanks for the answers . If you see the knife in person it looks almost like the rogers bone on my queens,but i cant tell my opinion is delrin but it sure looks like bone,maybe someone has an ad or other catalog info to date it but seeing as most of the knives i bought were late 60s early 70s im putting it in that group.could be way off because their were a few older ones but not many beside the switch and a few others thanks again,.
 
Here is an example not exactly the same but the first I grabbed this is a PAL. Genuine 100 percent plastic. LT
 

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hi, heres the pic of the knife i own,same exact stamp,and the discussion we had about it.
My opinion is a early 70s imperial hammer brand with delrin,but th best looking bone delrin ive seen on a knife. i think this is the same knife that the seller had,anybody agree or disagree?thank you
 
That's bone, no question, authentic Roger's bone circa 1950's same as what was used on the Ulster marked knives of the period.

There were evidently very few of the solid bolster Hammer Brand knives made by ISC using the Ulster tooling, I have seen probably fewer than 10 examples total in 30 plus years.
 
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