Handle Finish Question

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ok i'm going to finish some curly maple with some potassium permanganate (sp?) do you think wood hardener will be a good coating for the handle?
if not are there any more finishes i can buy close by in the store? i'm too impatient to order anything. thanks for the replys

Mike
 
wood hardener would not be a good finish.

go to the local home center store and look for their fine furniture refinishing products. it doesn't have to be expensive or elaborate, curly maple finishes up very nice with a wide range of products. you might want to do this before you use the potassium permanganate. there are dozens of great ways to finish maple, but you said you were impatiant so that rules out a lot of them so look for a light stain with polyurethane.
 
are there any other finishes than polyeurethane? i know the wood hardener is polyeurethan based but i hate how it turns out. it just ends up rubbing off.
what about using an oil to finish it after the potassium p?
 
Try a test piece with Teak Oil (Watco) I like it more every time I use it. Watco Danish oil is also good.

BTW.....potassium permanganate will turn GREEN over time. It never fails.
You might want to consider Aqua Fortis instead.
 
ok i found some tung oil at a closeby store. what do you think of using this with the P.P. to color the curly maple? i'm testing a piece right now but i wanted some input on it from the pros
Don where could i find the aqua fortis?
 
Here's the formula Michael:


So, here we go... 300 ml (10 fl-oz) of conc HNO3 (15-16 Molar), 240 ml (8 fl-oz.) of conc. HCl (10.5-12 Molar), mix the acids, in large, heat-tolerant container, add about 30 grams (~2 oz.) of 4d finish nails, do this outside, depart the immediate premises and allow the iron to dissolve, liberating NO2 gas, very dangerous, so get out of there, and isolate the system from any metal objects you care for!! Let this exothermic, almost volcanic, reaction occur, allow to cool, then with dionized or distilled water, dilute this matrix to one gallon, or about 3784 ml, total solution. Store final product in amber glass or polyethelene container. This will give you enough browner FOREVER. To make the AQ stain, follow same procedure, except after reaction has ceased, dilute to only about one-third, or to about 1200 ml (~40 fl-oz) of total product or solution. Now, if you are only interested in creating a stock reagent, then one can approach it by taking only the conc. nitric acid, diluting about 2 or 3 to one with water, by adding acid to the water, NEVER, the reverse, and adding degreased steel wool to the acid solution until no more appears to react, then use it for final product in that state of dilution. Pure nitric acid will not dissolve the iron, it must have "excess protons" within the system, whether from another acid, like the HCl, we cited, or from the water, which obviously need not be that pure, as we need H+ ions, not water molecules...That's the story, not bioengineering or rocket science, but be careful if you undertake this project, as the NO2 is dangerous, noxious, toxic, and some say even carcenogenic... Wear eye protection and rubber gloves when handling any strong oxidants, safety first, stock stain/barrel- browner second!!

The down and dirty recipe I use is:

Equal parts of Nitric acid and Muriatic acid.

Add 4 penny finish nails a few at a time until it won't dissolve anymore, then add few more.

Caution, use a glass container that can take heat, do this outside and make sure no one you like is down wind.

They don't call Nitric "Red Fuming Acid for nothing"

The next day, cut the mixture with 3 parts of water (add acid to water"

Let it age a day or two and paint it on the wood. When it has dried (I wait a day) heat it with a hot air gun.

It will be a muddy red at that point.

When you put your oil on it will turn into a beautiful reddish brown and the stripes will jump out at you.

Be careful!

You may want to check some of Wild Roses posts. Chuck has come up with a safer mixture!
 
oh forget about it. i'll kill myself. i'll have to go do it over IG's house encase somethingmesses up or a drop the container! :D
 
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