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I need suggestion on handle material. I like micarta or plastic due to their durability but I do not like the health hazards involved. I am just starting out so I am not talking about mass production. is their a material that is pretty durable, cost effective, and not as hazardous as micarta? Thanks.
 
Eastern Hard Rock Maple - you can seal and even "stabilize" it after shaping. With good eastern hard rock sealing is more than adequate in my experience anyway. Tp paraphrase what Mike Hull said elsewhere - "wood has been used for thousands of years and stabilizing has been around for only 20 years or so."

Lots of folks are going to suggest commercially stabilized wood, but remember that it is stabilized using similar hardeners such as are used in the making of micarta.
 
Lets face facts... There isnt ANY dust made in a knife shop thats good for you... Wear a decent respirator and you will be fine...
Bob Loveless has been breathing Micarta dust longer than I have been alive, and he is still with us;)
If you want TOUGH handles you will have to look at Micarta, G-10, and even CF... As for woods, I think Cocobolo is about as tough as wood gets..
 
Trace - with all due respect - unfortunately it's not just breathing dust - dust on your skin, the fumes (formaldehyde from Micarta), solvents, etc. Maybe Bob is OK, but myself (I have an incurable liver disease that the doctors say is in part from working around solvents - many absorbed through the skin and the other part I know is from improper safety precautions on my part) and Mike Hull are a couple of examples who aren't fine due to exposure to toxic substances. Genetic propensity to such conditions is probably part of it, but I didn't know that until it was too late.
And what about cleaning up the dust? Remember it isn't just the particulates you create while you work, but the stuff that lies around the shop and gets kicked up. A lot of this stuff is cumulative and there are thousands of workers each year who become sick or worse due to long time exposure to low grade toxicity. Let's face it most of our workshops would get closed down immediately if OSHA showed up.
Finally how tough does one need? - for most ordinary (less than tactical or underwater conditions) most good dense woods will hold up just fine (frankly my first preference for a handle is antler but...).
Cocobolo is good but it can also cause health problems - I know several guys who break out in a serious rash from the dust.
 
Wild Rose the original post said nothing about incurable liver disease or the like... We all work with toxic substances on a daily basis, and OSHA would send a SWAT team if they ever saw many of our shops... I am sorry to hear about your condition, but the post was about tough handle materials, so I answered as best I could...
 
And logicaly if you have these problems, then the way to deal with them is to implement a safety program as Trace suggests, so you don't breath these toxics. It's a myth that wood is just dandy, most of it is real nasty, those equatorial trees didn't live to be 500 without being built like a roach motel. I'm OK with coco, but there are lots of people who look like they were maced after they use it, that's me on Mac ebony. I use four levels of filtration in my shop: Dust extractor; cheap QSP vac with bags and WL Gore filter; multi stage air cleaner; Airmate personal helmet system. That's just for nuisance dust. That stuff is a) much cheaper in the US than what I paid for it, and I don't even get a health care offset, since it is gov funded here.:)

I would suggest figured maple, just stay away from the dyes.
 
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