Handmade Rasp Bowie

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Hi, This is my first post to Bladeforums and my first attempt at a knife from a rasp. I do not claim any expertise (or much experience for that matter) but my lifelong love of knives has lead me to try making a few of my own. Being that my father is a farrier I had some of the basic materials available to me to use. Over his years of work he has more spare rasps than he knows what to do with; they just sit in a pile among thousands of horseshoes. So I decided to see what I could come up with.

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This is the forge setup I used

After a couple hours of banging the file teeth began to flatten and I started to get a rough shape of how I wanted it. (sorry no pics till after) The curved handle started to take its shape and I began to draw out the blade, careful to keep the blade hot while it thinned out. I then heated the handle of the knife and stuck it in a couple cinderblocks filled with ash to anneal

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Before tempering I shaped, ground the basic convex edge, and drilled holes for the pins which hold the handle scales in place.

Now before you all critique my methods let it be known that I had little knowledge of that I was doing and was mainly referencing youtube videos. That being said I heated the blade as evenly as I could until it was about the color of a #2 pencil. It did not stick to a magnet. Concerned with the amount of slag (if that is what it is called) on the blade I decided to give it a quick scrape with the wire brush. BAD IDEA. the blade bent so badly I had to spend another 10 minutes straightening that thing out.

finally I was able to successfully quench without warping the blade. After cleaning it up a little with some sandpaper I was delighted to see that the scale pattern was even more pronounced than before. However, there is this "bubbled" texture to the blade if you look closely and I am still unsure what caused it. Possibly overheating? After this I threw it in the oven at 350 for about an hour (again referencing youtube) and called it quits as far as heating goes.

the pins went in well and the holes in the maple lined up well for the most part, While epoxy-ing I ended up cracking the maple handle by trying to force one of the pins into place with a misaligned hole. This will probably haunt me for as long as I keep this handle. I have thought of replacing the maple for some Indian satinwood I nabbed from my shop teacher one year. Really tight grain, awesome looking stuff.

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All in all I am fairly happy with how it turned out, I was able to put a sharp edge on it and it has held it well. I still have yet to put this knife through its paces but I have not seen anything (handle aside) that would warrant catastrophic failure.

Being new to the art of knifesmithing I encourage replies and am more than willing to learn from those with more experience with the knife making process. please, just take it easy on the new guy. ;)
 
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Good for a first. Need to do research on plunge line and ricaso. I think it would be much better looking with a longer clip. I really enjoy big clips and seems most of the market is trending that way. One of the first knives I built (attached below for reference and very similar to yours) was from a file and had a small clip on it, as soon as I reshaped the clip drawing it out longer and giving the knife a more sleek and aggressive look, it sold for 350usd






here is the sheath



 
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Thanks for the tips! that certainly is one mean looking blade. I have done some reading about knife anatomy on Jay Fishers website. Although I had thought about it, with my current grinding setup I felt it was going to be too difficult to get a clean plunge line. also what are the main advantages of a knife with a ricaso versus one without? Are there any tools you feel are essential to knife making? right now I have a 4" flat top belt sander, a drill press, and a bench/hand grinder
 
I'm an amateur so I'll give it my best shot. The ricaso is going to help you balance the knife and plunge line will create the the point for the main bevel/grind. The ricaso is the flat area between the plunge line and the handle or guard. You'll see I had the same issue with the knife I made in the pic above with the plunge line, it's faded but it is there.

I can't answer your question about with or without a ricaso because the only knives I can recall not having a ricaso are really thin knives or kitchen knives, otherwise I believe all knives should have one, but I'm not really sure....

Essential tool for starters is questionable based on process but a belt grinder is a must. I see you have a flat top, seems dangerous to me, I'd rather my work of art to go through my foot rather than my abdomen lol. Craftsman makes a 2"x42" for 100usd to get you started and it can be used flat and vertical. Drill press, bandsaw, a jig to help maintain your plunge line is a huge help for us beginners and some high quality files.. A vise, a gas forage and probably the hardest tool to get, an Anvil. Variety of tongs and hammers.

Best thing you can do to find out little tips and trick is to find a local hammer in and start learning. I have the great pleasure of living just a few minutes up the road from a world renown maker who is always willing to lend me a hand, so I have yet to go to a hammer in.

Just keep doing what you are doing and you will start to produce some fine knives.

Just for reference, here are a few before pics of the same knife above in its previous states. I don't mind reworking a knife when I learn better.

First it was this



Then this



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Then finally it ended up being what you saw in my first response. Huge transformation but I have found that I learn a lot doing things the wrong way first lol.


What kind of bow you got in that case? I hunt the Mathews DXT but really been thinking about going with the Hoyt Carbon Spider....
 
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probably not a good thing I had my sander at chest/neck level huh? 0.o Pics 2 and 3 look like two completely different knives what did you do to it? I plan on trying my hand at another pretty soon I have a piece of leafspring that is just calling my name. I will post the results here.

The bow in the case is a Hoyt my dad's friend let me use while my martin was being restrung. Not sure which model but it sure was a nice shooter
 
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