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I was wondering what some of the makers of Traditional Pocket Knives use for putting their Nail Knick's in their blades and if they could share some photo's of the tools they use for this process and any possible links as to where someone might find one of these bits to be Purchased and any other photo's of the Bits and Tools work and performance would be great to see as well ~

I am planning on making my first Folder ~ a Powder Horn Folding Hunter ~ Like Cattaraugus Manufactured ~
 
As Hengelo_77 Hengelo_77 said the dremel cut off disc are fairly easy and reasonable. A "Crescent" Nick is best done with a Stamp or shaped Punch, They can be done with a shallow 30 degree Dovetail cutter, the blade needs to be inverted in a fixture so the straight edge of the cutter aligns with the spine. A "Fly Cutter" with a shaped carbide cutting bit is what I use most now for crescent nicks. A Milling machine is best for the Dovetail/Fly Cutters I wouldn't try them on a drill press.
 
I use slitting saw blades for long pulls and a 2.75" diameter 45* single angle cutter for nicks. I run both in my mill.
 
I do it with a dressed dremel cut off wheel and files via the process described by wolfeknives wolfeknives here:

Cutting Nail Nick on Folder

From what I see on the Internet, they are afraid to unscrew a modern, CNC made knife!
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com

It takes some practice to get good, but it does seem effective if you want a minimal cost solution. I have heard a lot of people mention making a punch, but I have not tried that yet.


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I've had success with a profiled fly cutter bit, though my latest nicks are cut with a 45 degree dovetail cutter. A note on the dovetail cutters: the blade will have to be "edge up" when cutting, so I'll usually leave some extra material on my blank behind the spine so that I can get a good hold on it in my milling vice. There's other ways to do it with fixture plates and other hold down methods, but that's the most straight forward.
You'll also want to get a "large" diameter dovetail cutter. Something like 1-3/8" to 1-1/2" if you can find it. Should run you about $40 or so. I think I got mine from Grizzly. Use a good cutting oil and slow feed and speed, and it should last you a good while.

Granted, all of the above assumes you have a milling machine. I wouldn't try it on a drill press.
 
Sean Yaw said:
I do it with a dressed dremel cut off wheel and files via the process described by wolfeknives wolfeknives here:

Cutting Nail Nick on Folder

From what I see on the Internet, they are afraid to unscrew a modern, CNC made knife!
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com

It takes some practice to get good, but it does seem effective if you want a minimal cost solution. I have heard a lot of people mention making a punch, but I have not tried that yet.


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Thnx for the link, very interesting.
Can you show a pic of the files you use?
 
Hengelo_77 said:
Thnx for the link, very interesting.
Can you show a pic of the files you use?
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I use these files:
www.harborfreight.com

Needle File Set, 10 Piece

Amazing deals on this Needle File Set, 10Pc at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.
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They are really just to smooth out the bottom of the curve so it is not wavy. As I get better I spend less and less time with the files. That last picture with all the heat treat scale may have been straight from dremel to sandpaper.
 
Grandpa Peter's and Grandma Betty's said:
Drew ~ " You'll also want to get a "large" diameter dovetail cutter. Something like 1-3/8" to 1-1/2" if you can find it. Should run you about $40 or so. I think I got mine from Grizzly. Use a good cutting oil and slow feed and speed, and it should last you a good while." ~

Think I am going to get me one of these and give this a try when it comes time to do so ~ do you have a product number for the bits you are talking about or any more inform
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Grandpa Peter's and Grandma Betty's said:
ation on how or where to get one ~ ? Thank You
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Amazon.com: Grizzly Industrial H2952 - Dovetail Cutter 1-3/8" x 45 : Industrial & Scientific

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There's a link to the one I've been using. I also have a 30mm diameter dovetail cutter that is 60 degrees, but I think the 45 is a little cleaner looking.
 
Grandpa Peter's and Grandma Betty's said:
I was wondering what some of the makers of Traditional Pocket Knives use for putting their Nail Knick's in their blades and if they could share some photo's of the tools they use for this process and any possible links as to where someone might find one of these bits to be Purchased and any other photo's of the Bits and Tools work and performance would be great to see as well ~

I am planning on making my first Folder ~ a Powder Horn Folding Hunter ~ Like Cattaraugus Manufactured ~
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I do them with those aluminium oxide thin cutting discs. Angle grinder or dremel 4000 is what i've used. If you use an angle grinder go lightly, i've wrecked a few by cutting too deep with the fast RPM angle grinder, it might be a bit overkill but it gets the job done in 0.2 seconds if you have steady hands.
 
Hengelo_77 said:
Would a cutter like that work in a drill press?
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Depends on the drill press, but typically I'd say "not recommended". DPs aren't really designed for lateral loads, and you risk loosening your spindle taper and dropping your chuck out of the press. Also, the shaft on these are 3/4", which is a bit larger than most drill press chucks will handle.
 
For dovetail and fly cutters , do it before or after HT?
 
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