Hapstone question

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Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!
 
Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!


I am of the opinion that such complicated and expensive sharpening systems are gimmicks and not needed to sharpen a knife. You can sharpen knives to hair shaving sharpness freehanding your edge with several 8 inch stones and use a magnifying glass to see what you are doing to the edge.

I use a Coarse DMT 8 inch stone with hard steels such as D2, found I can use a medium India stone on 1095, and the most important sharpening tool I use is the magnifying glass on my Victorinox knife


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with this magnifying glass I can see if the bevels are flat (which means I am not varying the sharpening angle) , that the bevels are even, and the edge is centered in the blade. You calibrate the consistency of your blade angle by looking at what you are doing to your edge. Incidentally, for most knives, the sharpening angle changes depending on where I am on the blade. The curved point area I sharpen separately from the flat edge, and blend the bevels at some intersecting point. When the bevels are even I get off the diamond stone. My fingers tell me where the burr is, then I go a medium or fine India stone to knock the burr.


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It does not take much to remove the burr. No more than a slight polish, hard steels, such as D2, are hard enough that extended strokes on a non diamond stone will round the bevels. I feel the keenness of the edge with my fingers.

After that, the edge is sharp. Sharpen enough knives, and then cut things, you will develop your own opinions on what is an appropriate angle.
My sharpness standard is a Roma tomato. If I can effortlessly cut a Roma Tomato, the edge is sharp.

An advantage to free hand sharpening is that I don’t have to buy expensive specialty stones, which when they become unavailable, you have to toss the fixture. Eight inch stones go back more than 100 years, and I am sure, will be around long after me. I have had this AG Russell aluminum base since the 1970's. Still works.



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I am of the opinion that such complicated and expensive sharpening systems are gimmicks and not needed to sharpen a knife. You can sharpen knives to hair shaving sharpness freehanding your edge with several 8 inch stones and use a magnifying glass to see what you are doing to the edge.

I use a Coarse DMT 8 inch stone with hard steels such as D2, found I can use a medium India stone on 1095, and the most important sharpening tool I use is the magnifying glass on my Victorinox knife


qol8jFR.jpg



with this magnifying glass I can see if the bevels are flat (which means I am not varying the sharpening angle) , that the bevels are even, and the edge is centered in the blade. You calibrate the consistency of your blade angle by looking at what you are doing to your edge. Incidentally, for most knives, the sharpening angle changes depending on where I am on the blade. The curved point area I sharpen separately from the flat edge, and blend the bevels at some intersecting point. When the bevels are even I get off the diamond stone. My fingers tell me where the burr is, then I go a medium or fine India stone to knock the burr.


rIAy8Zw.jpg


It does not take much to remove the burr. No more than a slight polish, hard steels, such as D2, are hard enough that extended strokes on a non diamond stone will round the bevels. I feel the keenness of the edge with my fingers.

After that, the edge is sharp. Sharpen enough knives, and then cut things, you will develop your own opinions on what is an appropriate angle.
My sharpness standard is a Roma tomato. If I can effortlessly cut a Roma Tomato, the edge is sharp.

An advantage to free hand sharpening is that I don’t have to buy expensive specialty stones, which when they become unavailable, you have to toss the fixture. Eight inch stones go back more than 100 years, and I am sure, will be around long after me. I have had this AG Russell aluminum base since the 1970's. Still works.



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Thanks so much for this thoughtful comment. I wish I could free-hand sharpen, but I’m very uncoordinated and pretty much lack fine motor skills so I thought a guided system might work better for me (especially this decade!) I watched a number of YouTube videos trying to convince myself I could do it sufficiently, and I think one even said it would take years to learn properly. I am sure it’s a great skill, and if I had any faith in my ability to learn it well enough to have usable knives, I’d do it in a heartbeat. For me I think it is more practical to get some sort of guide or rig. But I appreciate your point, and the time you took to make it.

Thanks again.
 
I am surprised that free handing is considered difficult. But I do have a brother in law who thinks drawing is easy. He will just take pen to paper and what he draws, looks real. I can't draw a tree.

But, I do believe with practice, and calibrating what you are going with a magnifying glass, you can create an excellent edge.
 
Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!
Whenever you buy a guided sharpener, there will always be something that might be better on the way. I say seize the day!

I mostly freehand sharpen, but in tricky cases, or when I want to make a new bevel, or when the factory grind is wonky and I want to make it clean and consistent, it's great to just pull out the Hapstone (R1) or TsProf, and go to town.

Also comes in handy when people hear that you sharpen, and bring over 7 crappy stainless steel knives and one treasured Wusthof.
 
Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!
It may all come down to how much you want to spend. The Hapstone R2 comes highly recommended by members here.
 
It may all come down to how much you want to spend. The Hapstone R2 comes highly recommended by members here.
I’m in Canada so it’s a bit strange on the pricing. It seems to me that the r2 won’t run that much more than higher end wet stones with things like a sink bridge and lapping plate factored in. I’m always happy to spend less money, but I’m also willing to spend a bit more upfront for value over time if that makes sense.

Thanks everyone for the helpful replies.
 
but I’m also willing to spend a bit more upfront for value over time if that makes sense.
It makes perfect sense, but whatever path you decide to take, do your research and take into account after market costs. A lot of units are just the basic units and the after market costs can blow the cost right out. Good Luck. :thumbsup:
 
Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!

T t0tal , I don't think it'll be much longer before they release more info. Availability might be another thing though.

But I'm with U UncleBoots on this one, there will always be something "better" on the way, usually more expensive,
and rarely a marked improvement over existing guided systems.

The modular Hapstone R2 is a great system, and it would serve you well. I have and use the Hapstone M3, along with a few other sharpeners.
 
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Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!

It's worth getting the R2 black. The RS will be more of an entry level sharpener.
 
Whenever you buy a guided sharpener, there will always be something that might be better on the way. I say seize the day!

I mostly freehand sharpen, but in tricky cases, or when I want to make a new bevel, or when the factory grind is wonky and I want to make it clean and consistent, it's great to just pull out the Hapstone (R1) or TsProf, and go to town.

Also comes in handy when people hear that you sharpen, and bring over 7 crappy stainless steel knives and one treasured Wusthof.
Lol. The “treasured” Wusthof”
 
Another vote for the r2.
Hi all,


I was wondering if anyone had any information about the Hapstone RS they teased on their Facebook page. I’ve been doing a bit of research and think the Hapstone R2 black might be worth it for me (mostly keeping my kitchen knives sharp, but want a consistent sharpener to get it done right). Should I wait for them to release more information on the RS or is it likely years away?

Thanks!
seems there will be more info on the RS tomorrow, it will launch as a kickstarter.
 
Apparently more info on the RS tomorrow . It will be a kickstarter project. Will check it out . It looks smaller than the R2. If it has the same capability and functionality as the R2 it could be interesting
 
It appears to be modular, like the R2, and it looks like the stone holder assembly has a hollow sleeve, that the guide rod slides through.
Interesting.

It is small if that’s an opinel number 8 not so much if it’s a number 12!
If those are 6" EP form factor stones on and around it, it's pretty compact.
 
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