Hardware store supplied overlaid bit repair kit??

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Do you know if anybody manufactured and offered to blacksmiths V-shaped, ready to be slapped on overcoat bit kits?
I am looking at those two axes and have feeling that both were given new life with factory produced overlaid bits. What do you think?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Old-Rusty-Antique-Iron-Axe-Head-Kelly-Axe-amp-Tool-Co-Marked-True-Temper-USA-/123764736253?hash=item1cd0f400fd:g:4M8AAOSwXdpczkg9&nma=true&si=wTTLdVrmmoXoY4f1IkFVlutOrSg%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.ebay.com/itm/KELLY-AXE-...m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
 
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I've never heard of it but those pics make a compelling case! I've often wondered that myself. If whoever repaired those axes had spent some time grinding we'd be non the wiser! I've got a couple personally that I think may have been re-steeled. I'll keep an eye on the thread to see what the pros think! Thanks for posting. Darn good question!
 
Because of an appearance of standardization? I see only an over-laid bit situation, done with a high degree of pragmatism, and no reason to speculate further. Am I missing something, other than axes with no relationship whatsoever besides similarities in the bit renewal technique?
 
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I think that for a Hot-forged repair the bit shape would be quite far from V-shape.
(it distorts considerably in fire-welding,plus much of it would go away in subsequent grinding...So the starting shape would be more of a thick "U"...).

Or do you mean that it may've been applied by other methods?
Brazing?...The traces of filler metal would be then visible...
Sorry,i'm confused...maybe missing something....(short on sleep lately...:(
 
muleman77 said:
Might be such a thing existed, I'm sure it could have at some point.

That axe looks like a "Kelly Chip Slinger" to me.
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Thanks!
I assumed those came with J.P. Kelly markings. I was thrown off by True Temper maker's marks (30 years later, when TT used electricity to weld their high carbon steel bits).

Ernest DuBois said:
Because of an appearance of standardization? I see only an over-laid bit situation, done with a high degree of pragmatism, and no reason to speculate further. Am I missing something, other than axes with no relationship whatsoever besides similarities in the bit renewal technique?
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Yes. Uniform curvature of the edge of overlaid bit. Also, they were coming from New England where blacksmiths were prone to use overcoat bits.
Obviously, Muleman77 by now has corrected my assumptions.

jake pogg said:
I think that for a Hot-forged repair the bit shape would be quite far from V-shape.
(it distorts considerably in fire-welding,plus much of it would go away in subsequent grinding...So the starting shape would be more of a thick "U"...).

Or do you mean that it may've been applied by other methods?
Brazing?...The traces of filler metal would be then visible...
Sorry,i'm confused...maybe missing something....(short on sleep lately...:(
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I thought along the line of those blacksmith sets offered by Sears. Some were for blacksmiths, but some were designed for amateurs (maybe small blacksmithing tasks on the farm). I thought the idea of already V/U shaped overlaid bit kit seemed feasible, especially in New Hampshire or Vermont.
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